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RE: Howto vote every post or comment twice. A tutorial for the advanced selfvoter. Increase your rewards by 38%.

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

According to my calculation 10 Votes with 100% will result in $9.15 total post rewards per day or $64.02 per week.

According to my calculation 208 Votes with 100% will result in $49.25 total post rewards for one account per week, or $ 98.50 by using 2 accounts and Steem Power delegation.

Not sure I agree with with all your math so I will try to explain, correct me if I am wrong but the guy using two accounts makes more money in your scenario, but what about the next week after he gets his delegated SP back he will not be making anything and the other guy using only one account will make another 64.02.

So to me it looks like using just one account would be more profitable bringing in $128.10 and you could make even more if you just let your voting power go back to 100% before each vote , taking you to $140.00 VS $98.50 the guy with two accounts is going to make. So using one account would make 42.13% more.

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Hi @halo, you are right in the case that Selfvoter A should be able to vote 10 times a day with 100% voting power if he exactly scedules the votes with a period of 2.4 hours. So his earnings are $70.00 per week.

For Selfvoter B I implicitly assumed (it is not well formulated in the post), that he votes all of his 208 comments as fast as possible, in best case using a bot. In this case he needs:

  • 208 blocks to vote the 208 comments with account 1
  • 1 block to delegate the SP to account 2
  • 208 blocks to vote the 208 comments with account 2
  • 1 block to withdraw the SP

Means in best case he needs 418 blocks = 1254 seconds = around 21 minutes to vote all of his stuff. And than he needs to wait exactly 7 days and he can repeat the same procedure.

If he does it manually, I assume it takes not more than 2 hours to vote all of his stuff. But to keep it simple, let's assume he needs exactly 2.4 hours for the procedure. Means that selfvoter A is able to do one vote more than in my calculation above.

So Selfvote B should be able to get $98.50 in 7 days and 2.4 hours, and Selfvoter A should be able to get $71.00 in the same timeframe. This is an outperformance of around 38.73%.

@twinner Thank you for replying , at first I thought that Selfvoter B took a full week to make his votes but I see now it is all in one day , 21 min to be exact. So yes I agree Selfvoter B could make 38.73 % more. This would be very hard to do without a bot.

Wrote an article discussing solutions and raised the issue on Github. Comment link to Github issue is at the end of this post https://steemit.com/steemit/@cyberspace/proposed-steemit-fix-for-steem-power-delegation-self-voting-loophole

Sure he will. The process is repeatable weekly. After 7 days, both accounts will have recovered their voting power.

Ok, double voting with the same Steem Power is possible, but it is also profitable? Keep in mind that both accounts now are not able to vote the next 7 days with the delegated SP. Meantime other accounts can vote 10 times with 100% per day.

I don't know how it all works for sure. I was going off what @twinner wrote and according to what he wrote it can not be repeated weekly. Looks like by weekly to me.

Right, it's just one 7 day period, though, not two. @twinner has already accounted for that with their math.

I understand his scenario is 1 week but if you take the math out two weeks you lost money by doing it because the delegated SP will not be useable by either account for that second week, but using one account you would still get your 10 votes a day @ 100%.

Why do you think you can't use the SP for the second week? Here's the timeline: Day 1 vote with account a, delegate to account b, vote with account b, remove delegation.
Days 2-7 wait.
Day 8 vote with account a, delegate to account b, vote with account b, remove delegation.
Days 8-14 wait

Repeat ad infinitum.

Ok, double voting with the same Steem Power is possible, but it is also profitable? Keep in mind that both accounts now are not able to vote the next 7 days with the delegated SP. Meantime other accounts can vote 10 times with 100% per day.

Because it is right there in @twinners post, but I think I understand what was confusing me , I was thinking the trades were taking a whole week and they don't he is doing it all in one day. Thank you @improv

No problem!

Halo, I love you..your logic makes more sense..at least to me.

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