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RE: A New Agreement, Just Between Us Friends

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Government is something we all do
nope.

Government is a mental disease. It's the functional equivalent of cancer. It's progress is directly parallell. Once the tumor get's too large (beyond Dunbars Number) it spreads (metastisize)...grows, causes great pain and disruption, and is eventually fatal.

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I suspect you confine the term to politics, as we have been taught. When you move your foot from one side of the bed to the other, you are governing your foot. Being alive is governing.

You are a government, no matter what you call it. What I want is to bring us back to the actuality that we are governing, despite your insistence that you wouldn't touch governing with a ten foot pole.

Call it by any word you like. Managing your own affairs, agreeing with others to mutually respect one another. I don't care much, really.

I just want to get together with my friends and agree on those things we do and then act to take responsibility for our agreement, rather than let the imposition of rulers that I have no truck with, nor influence over, be supposed to be something I consent to.

I reckon we have plenty we agree on, despite semantics over specific words, but also things we don't, and when we set them out, we can respect both, on purpose - without letting gummint get in the way of our agreements.

exactly right.
English (and even Texan)
is chock full of hijacked words.
words can be twisted to mean
ANYTHING
you want them to.
but once again
I
AGREE
with what you said.

I learned a bit of Texian when I was down that way, Austin mostly, but a few Hellish days in Houston, and some nice visits to Franklin. Austin was fun. Franklin was good folks. Houston is a swamp full of people I can live without.

Sadly, I never made it to Bastrop. I knew a fella named Steele Nixon, from Beaumont. He said he met a girl once (he did that a lot. Me too. Texas if full of 'em) who asked where he was from, and when he told her Beaumont, she replied "Oh! What kind of truck do you drive?"

I laughed. He drove a Ford pickup.

we call Austin 'berkley east' and houston is 'nyc south'.
not real texas..
NOTHING like the rest of the state.

I spose Austin is choked with SJW's now, but it was a lot of fun for a guy from Alaska at 27. 6th St. was incredible. Shit kicking goat ropers in Maggie Mae's and punk rocker zipper faces right across the street in the metal clubs. Halloween they barricaded off the middle of 6th St. and the cops stayed inside the barricades, trying to swipe bottles of booze from the obviously drunk that came in range.

I recall estimates in excess of 60k people went to the party. That was an event.

yup..that was then.
this is now.
toooooo many people waz having toooooo much (un-regulated) fun.
that's Got to end.

So, in order to better understand, your first reply was 'government.. nope...'

But after my response you state you agree with what I said, so I'm wondering, was my post unclear? Did I kick myself in the nucken futz by using too many words I don't unnerstand, or were you merely commenting as to our mutual dislike of the present form government undertakes?

I do get carried away with words. I oughta join one of those 12 step programs for people that talk too much. I reckon Onan'onAnon is the one for me.

I agree with your conclusions
I just don't agree with your reasoning
I agree with the WHAT.
not the WHY

I would like to know where I erred. I thought the why was clearly that it is we ourselves who are sovereign, the bearer of our rights, and responsible for our use of them. The present fallacy of government is in the way of our exercise of our duty, at best, and inflicted on us maliciously, in practice.

Izzat not the tl;dr version of my post?

in my not so humble opinion
your error is the concept of 'maliciously'.
that implies prior intent.
government doesn't have that.
not guilty by reason of insanity.
government is a mental illness.
nuckin futz.

Well, I'll ponder on how to better (and more concisely) word it, so as to communicate that the malice is on the part of those using bureaucracies and the like for their personal ends. An entity 'government' isn't capable of doing a damn thing. It's the people occupying the jobs, and the people corrupting them, that effect what we call government nowadays.

yup
(no offense)
I actually know some pretty decent people who work for the gubment.
I figger that if they quit their gubment jobs.
they could sell dope or pimp for a few years.
to regain their self respect.

Depends on context. I govern my children, or I could hire a governess.
I'm sure the word was chosen specifically by the state to engender confusion between legitimate governance and their special brand of terrorism.

the state is insane.
you give it MUCH too much credit.

I certainly hope so.

there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. A brief look at history (which is a lie, which further confirms my contention) or a life long in-depth study validates my claim. The Iron Law of the Crazy Donkies

Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people":

First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch technicians and scientists at NASA, even some agricultural scientists and advisors in the former Soviet Union collective farming administration.

Secondly, there will be those dedicated to the organization itself. Examples are many of the administrators in the education system, many professors of education, many teachers union officials, much of the NASA headquarters staff, etc.

The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. It will write the rules, and control promotions within the organization.

George Washington knew that.

John Wayne knew that.

the only antidote is to THINK

we know this.

the entire purpose of the US Constitution was to be a restraining order of Government Power.
How's that working out for us?

I agree. I sometimes think there are two voluntaryist/ancap camps;
Those who think the government is a malicious, scheming entity, and those who think it's just a collection of malicious, scheming entities.
Looks like you and I each subscribe to the latter, which is great if true.
It means those few scheming entities who comprehend crypto will use that knowledge to feather their own nests, rather than burn political capital on trying to educate and mobilise their fellow schemers against the existential threat to the state.

My Philosophy of Life
(see my last post)
is that
the whole world is crazy
except for me and you
and I'm not too sure
about you

there is no
"State"
there are only a whole lot of people infected with various types of mind virus.
they are all nukin' futz.

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