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RE: TIL: Posts on Steemit can Be CENSORED Without Explanation!

in #steemit7 years ago

If a post is hidden, then most people are not going to be attracted to even look at it. There are so many posts that the eye will just scan over it and ignore it in many cases

I don't actually know if this is true or not. It's hard to say. I don't know if a study is done on this. I click REVEAL on quite a few things just to see what they were and if it was anything I was interested in.

That said... it is not something you can get rid of without opening the platform to potentially larget problems.

if that weren't the case then why even bother having such a function of hiding the post in the first place?

If that function did not exist then we've seen abuse problems. At one point we used to allow even the first image on the post if animated gif to animate in the feed showing all posts. I distinctly remember a time before the hiding, and while that was possible of a very graphic animated blow job in the feed.

There are a number of younger people here, and it could be argued if they are here they are smart enough to find porn if they want. Yet there are also other people that may be offended by it. This could be true of extremely graphic violence or something like that too.

So this is why for example the NSFW tag can be used to auto hide such things. They still do quite well. Yet you do need an ability to create a "do you want to see this" type of gateway for some content.

Unfortunately there are not easy solutions.

You are going to encounter the occasional jerk that thinks in their arrogance that the topics they are not interested in should not be interesting to anyone.

All we can do is remove support from them. Some people may even go so far as to flag them back, but that's not really my style. I don't see going after those being negative by being negative as positive for the steem platform. I've not seen it be effective in a single case that I can think of. It kind of becomes war like.

So best you can do is let people that support you know what is going on and we'll find ways to counter jerks.

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I have written in some length on this issue in my last post - I think maybe you haven't looked at it yet.

"If that function did not exist then we've seen abuse problems."

your example of porn animations already has the NSFW mechanism to handle it - but downvotes can be used for literally any post at all. it is obvious that hiding a post harms it's effectiveness, it's just simple logic (at least to me as someone who studies human, computer interfacing professionally).

yes, some will click the post to reveal it out of curiosity - but that will be a small minority. most people don't open most posts even when they aren't hidden!

I just finished reading and responding to your post. You were correct I hadn't read it yet as I was reading my replies from oldest to newest.

most people don't open most posts even when they aren't hidden!

How do you know this? Have you done a study to compare views?

NSFW posts are hidden by default and they are making some good money.

Just look at the view count on most posts. I know from my own posts that until I was at reputation 50+ i would rarely get more than 3-8 views (according to my admittedly sometimes flawed memory). Most users of steemit have a relatively low reputation, so it follows they will be getting less views still.. There are thousands of active users and so obviously, since most posts only get a few views, there is no option but to accept that what you have quoted in mathematically accurate.

You also if you watch the views will see a lot more people up vote stuff rather than actually look at it. This bothers me a bit.

I think that is due to the way that curation rewards are given to those who vote new posts that later become popular. Some voters are basically gambling with their voting power by trying to pick posts that get big without even bothering to read them - plus there are probably bots involved too and also just people wanting to push certain topics to the top of the list.

Yeah I believe you are right. I actually wouldn't mind seeing curation rewards go away, but that would remove a way for people to benefit from investing in steem that are not good at producing content.

It would also remove a motivation for engagement - i think/feel that it's not such a bad idea, but it all needs some modifications to get it really optimised.

I actually once was sitting in a chat room on steemit.chat listening to some of these people that only curate suggesting that people who post content shouldn't get paid, only those who actually buy steem, and only curators.

They couldn't see how quickly that'd die. Other than THEY happen to hold the purse strings how is that different from any other social media.

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