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RE: [Podcast] A conversation w/ @ned. Can STEEM end the attention economy?

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

Have you not heard of the Brave movement? I think Steemit should seek to integrate the BAT token.

Check out the Brave browser: https://brave.com/

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BAT is going to eat steemit's lunch because they understand money doesn't grow on trees.
Advertisement capabilities is so important that it should be built right into the steem code but it's not even mentionned in the roadmap...
I wrote a post about this a few months ago https://steemit.com/steem/@snowflake/a-twitter-like-revenue-model-could-be-applied-to-steemit-busy
There is this general idea on steemit that advertisement is bad, it's NOT. Targeted and unwanted ad that tracks your every move, slow down your device,etc..is bad BUT advertisement where the user is in full control,can opt in or out, decides exactly what ad is being published and on top of that is being paid for it, then there is no problem with ads.

It doesn't have to be a competition. All Steemit has to do is ONE CHANGE on their internal exchange.

Accept BAT in exchange for STEEM POWER.

This would require gateways and all sorts of points of centralization but it would be very much worth it. The other thing Steemit can do is integrate BAT directly onto the Steemit platform so people can use the features of BAT combined with their Steem Power and Steem Dollars.

Advertisers are not going to buy bitcoin -> steem -> BAT Why would they when they can buy bitcoin -> BAT directly ?
The demand for steem won't increase as a result

If advertisers have BAT (which they'll have to buy because it's built into the Brave browser), and if Steemit accepts BAT, then Steemit is now open to advertisers. If BAT value can be converted to Steem Power than advertisers can pay Steem Power holders to serve ads.

Otherwise once enough people use the Brave browser the BAT token will be integrated at the browser level and Steemit will be left to lose.

and if Steemit accepts BAT, then Steemit is now open to advertisers

If steemit accepts BAT then the price of BAT will increase not the price of STEEM.

If BAT value can be converted to Steem Power than advertisers can pay Steem Power holders to serve ads.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean? Steem power holders need an infrastructure to serve ads which is missing.

There is only 2 ways to increase the price of steem through advertisement

  • BAT is open source ( not clear yet) and steem creates its own version
  • Steem create its own advertisement capabilities

BAT is also a browser thing so I don't think steemit is going to build their own browser, so we are left with option 2.

BAT is built into the Brave browser. The Brave browser blocks ads. That gives BAT a monopoly. Steemit has to work with the BAT people and deal with the BAT token on some level or people using the Brave browser will not get maximum benefit from Steemit.

Steemit should somehow integrate into Brave or work with the BAT team.

Steemit has to work with the BAT people and deal with the BAT token on some level

Steem investors don't care about the BAT token, they care about the STEEM token and the demand for it.

There is no point to work with the BAT people because they won't use STEEM instead of BAT, it's not gonna happen. But if they open source their code ( which I doubt) then we could use their ad model on a different browser with steem. But we will have to convince people to use this browser which won't necessarily be easy.
Both BAT and STEEM offers a completely different product so its hard to compare them however their goal is somewhat the same, which is to reward attention and content on the internet. The difference is that BAT has a clear revenue model and steem doesn't have one.

An investor's perspective on steem. I'm sure many other have the same conclusion. Starts at 11:30 min

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Interesting, thanks I had never heard of that. But, IMO it doesn't appear to solve the cognitive friction problem, as users will use the browser knowing they're being charged for each site they visit (if I'm understanding correctly).

But, I guess I have to try it and see what it feels like.

It does, you gotta read the whitepaper. Users earn tokens by viewing ads. Users spend tokens but without the cognitive friction because the process is automated.

That is interesting

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