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RE: Steem Voter Bot's current and future

in #steemit8 years ago

So, just to make certain I understand: the bot will vote for a post from someone on your list as soon as it sees it? And the "Up Vote on Other Posts" rules apply to posts from all users not on your list? If that's the intent, then you definitely need to introduce timing rules for the people on your list. An easy first step would be to have the timing rules in the "Up Vote on Other Posts" section simply apply to all votes, and make "Up Vote on Other Posts" a yes/no checkbox. That would be far less confusing. Being able to choose when to place a vote is important for strategies that try to optimize curation rewards.

Regarding the various options for earning a return on your site: you definitely deserve compensation for this, and whatever scheme you decide on, make sure it's something that will reward you enough so you feel incentivized to continue development. This site is really amazing and has lots of potential, so I really hope it gets developed to the fullest extent possible. I would happily pay a few SBD per month as a donation, since I expect the increase in curation rewards from using your bot would more than cover that. I'm also perfectly fine with you using one of my votes in whatever way you see fit.

the benefit to the early adopters of the vote per day is HUGE because they will get all the curation rewards of all the non-early adopters.

How do you imagine this working? As more people start using the bot, presumably there would be more posts using #steemvoter as well, so not sure what the benefit to early adopters would be.

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Hey, Thanks, glad you like it, and thanks for the recommendations. I definitely hope I get to develop this to its full potential. If I use everyone's vote per day (the one as payment) to reward a single random #steemvoter tagged post. They are done in order of account registration, so the early voters on that random #steemvoter post will benefit huge from all the other voters after it.

I am not sure the benefit of timing the votes on certain users you like. Because, wouldn't you want to be one of the first voters? For the other posts, the timing makes sense because you don't want to vote on every post, just the ones that seem to be trending.

Thanks for the clarification regarding #steemvoter , yeah that makes sense.

Regarding timing of votes, it's my understanding that the percentage of the curation reward that goes to you vs. the post author varies according to when you vote, especially if you vote within the first 30 minutes. If you vote immediately, most of the curation reward goes to the author. If you vote closer to the 30 minute mark, more of it goes to you. So many people will wait 30 minutes before voting to maximize the percentage they get. However there's some strategy in it. Wait too long and you give others the chance to vote before you. So more sophisticated bots will vote earlier, but the trick is not to be too early. You have to find just the right balance. And you might want to tweak your strategy for individual authors based on the history of how people / bots have voted for them before.

For the other posts, the timing makes sense because you don't want to vote on every post, just the ones that seem to be trending.

I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around these timing rules. Let's say I set no voting before 20 minutes, no voting after 60 minutes in the other votes part. Then wouldn't every single published post get voted on as soon as it's been live for 20 minutes? Which should drain all my voting power pretty fast given that during busy times new stuff gets posted just about every minute or so.

Ahhh I didn't know that about voting right away. I will look into that.

The Other Posts sections is like a window, vote on posts that have already X votes between 20 min and 60 min. So if a post never gets X votes before 60 min, you will not vote on it. I understand I really need to clarify all the voting rules stuff, and I will in my next big push when I reach more users. The problem is that I have had a voting bot for several months, so the way I think about it is different than new people.

Thanks for helping me understand how others see things.

Okay, I think I'm clear on how the Other Posts section works now. I appreciate you being so responsive and willing to clarify all these points. Glad the discussion has been useful for you too!

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