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RE: Negative Flag Downvote Less Impactful on Steemit

in #steemit5 years ago (edited)

I hear the points made @gniksivart. There are ways of stopping that also with things like steemcleaners for those that do plagiarize I am in agreement there there is abuse in that and it's a good thing a program like that is in place for that kind of behavior. In the user agreement they have the right to shut an account down due to abuse then do some kind of action as a company. If the cost to flag someone is twice as much then users on the platform can take a principled stand and offer up just a tiny bit (if they aren't flagging all of the time) of their voting power if they feel strongly enough. I am not at all saying the down vote should go away in any means. If they want to troll they surely can I am not telling anyone what they can or can't do on here. But what I am saying is that if the cost to continually down vote and intentionally wreck people on here should come with some cost, and really for the amount of damage that is done destroying people because they don't carry that particular down voting army of people or bots' exact feeling on a certain thing, or just happened to comment on the wrong post at the wrong time is an outrageously ridiculous thing to me to bow down to tyrants. We as users in an evolving decentralized platform can fix the monumentally stupid things that go down as we go as well, or vote with our feet and walk away to another platform that takes the very little time to fix these types of problems while blowing this platform away in value and passes it in the coinmarketcap top 100 like it is not even moving. Thanks a bunch for the commentary I am glad you did because you definitely have put some thought in it. Enjoy your weekend @gniksivart!

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Only steemit can ban accounts on steemit. It doesnt ban or censor the account on the blockchain.

For every one person that has gotten wrecked by flags i bet i can show 2 more that actually get more upvotes and follow after the wrong flags.

Making the changes you state wont fix the abusers it will only hurt legitimate projects like steem cleaners.

Drama is on this platform just like it is on every platform. Just look at all the false reports that get YouTube accounts shut down.

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This is remarkable @gniksivart I have never heard of this phenomena taking place, someone who flagged a post admitted doing something wrong? My anecdotal evidence has found that to never have happened, so I am glad there are some people with some intellectual honesty enough to admit when they had done that by mistake. The experience I have seen is that is a never ending barrage of flagging for every single post and/or every single comment at times for some people. I also am very heavily against ever banning an account, I didn't make it very clear in the instance of that ever happening it should be done with multiple warnings if conduct like you mentioned of plagiarism is ongoing, things like that and very very little else other than say filming crimes the user is a part of or really really crazy things, then that is about it otherwise keep it as uncensored in my book for sure I definitely agree with you there. Not sure how steemcleaners is hurt by having the cost of a flag doubled other than they may have to build a further consensus and we all as users need to be more vigilant in helping them so that the effect of what they are trying to do is effective also. Again, if Steemcleaners is having to flag the same accounts 5 and 6 times and giving them adequate warning of plagiarism I am not fully sure why this user would have an account after that many warnings and then steemcleaners eventually can move on to other things. They also would have a more limited amount of flagging that can be done and can make public pleas to name the offenders and we all can help police that as well. Great thoughts @gnikisvart I am glad to find someone with a different experience of this other than my own and having a legitimate discussion about it, thanks again for reading and responding.

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