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RE: Steemit Pedophile Ring Exposed
This is a post that led to various members of the community being attacked as "guilty by association".
Shame on the accuser!
Here is the "🔥🔥🔥 Helping Daddy With Dinner 🔥🔥🔥" photo
I won't be trusting anything from sensational @titusfrost again.
Just curious.. why have you chosen to display this particular picture. Why not highlight the pictures in this post: https://steemit.com/nsfw/@iamgod/beautiful-metart-girl-jasmina? Or is that too, okay according to you and fit for Steemit?
This may or may not be considered a paedophile ring, but is that really the question here? Under any definition, a girl exposing her vagina and posing for the camera, with or without her consent, whatever be her age, is PORNOGRAPHY. And porn should have no place on any social network.
If you want to get rid of all porn, you can have that debate. Accusing people of being part of a paedophile ring shouldn't be part of that...
There is no scope for a debate on this issue. Steemit is open to anyone over 13 years of age and having porn circulating, when a minor can easily access it, is blatantly wrong.
And stop getting stuck on a word , "peadophile ring" ... those images maybe of adult girls, but they are intentionally made to appear young, with the sole purpose of attracting those who like child porn. The question here is not, if this a peadofile ring. It should simply be, is the content that was uploaded acceptable? Is it ok for a 13 year old to stumble upon it?
Freedom of speech and expression, is great, as long as it doesn't offend someone else's sentiments. Make a private group of something, if you wish to trade sexually explicit content, but to protect minors on this platform, we need to put a stop on obscene, objectionable ,content.
There's going to be lots of porn on this platform. Hope it doesn't bother you too much.
There is always going to be lots of crime in the world, by your reasoning it shouldn't bother one too much. Everyone should just accept it as a flaw in humanity and do nothing about it. No?
All those who are actively trying to do something about spam on this platform, should stop. I mean it shouldn't bother one too much. Right?
I don't agree and praise those who at least try and do something about these issues.
Just because people will post porn, doesn't mean that it is ok and no one should do anything about it.
My reasoning was not included in the post. My reasoning is that the anti-porn view is a minority position with little power on the platform compared to the anti-censorship position.
Most movements start with a minority only, they just need to get traction. The words used in the title of the list, may not be perfect, but the basic idea behind it is sound and that's what one should focus on.
You mean the one where @steemcleaners found the original source on an ADULT porn site?
The girl is young, but could easily be over 18.
Why are you advertising these pictures now? This girl could be easily under 18 as well.
Not sure how is this going to prove your point that these pictures are considered okay.
please refrain from advertising such contents. This is clearly to test the waters and see if there are people approving of these things, using tantalizing pictures of maybe 18 maybe not. This could easily accelerate rapidly to becoming child porn site if gained enough support. Beside the guy is plagiarizing all his contents as I understood. This is something frowned upon in steemit.
I just cant understand what you were thinking posting these pictures here!!
I'm not proving she's over 18. I'm arguing that these accusations are incredibly harmful, and @titusfrost should be careful that he doesn't get sued for slander. The people he has accused have had their reputation ruined. That means money lost due to accusations that have no proof! The @iamgod guy probably is a paedophile, based on his crude comments on the clothed girls, but we're talking about young clothed girls out in public sitting in a park or just wearing hot pants. That is not porn! That's just a pervert! And an upvote doesn't signify agreement.
Are you accusing me here of being affiliated with this?
You think I'm endorsing and "testing the waters" for child porn???
I am not defending @iamgod. I would downvote him myself simply for being perverted in his remarks on the women. I am defending the others who are accused by association of being paedophiles! And to do so, I want people to see the innocence of what they actually upvoted, because I believe most people are assuming the worst and are too afraid to actually look at the posts.
You forgot I mentioned that most of @IamGod's content is stolen copyright material from adult porn sites, I said that right in the article and the Met Art post you linked to was never mentioned in my post because it was of an adult. Now the two posts of girls underage CLEARLY showing their nipples is Child Porn. Furthermore the girl in the thong post looks about 14 to me. Which would make that child porn as well.
Then there is the borderline posts, but with comments like "pedo bear seal of approval" see:
Thank you for your reply.
I was not accusing you of anything in my remark. What I meant by that remark "This is clearly to test the waters and see if there are people approving of these things" is that @iamgod is testing the waters to see if there will be people interested in what he offers. However, I certainly didn't appreciate you putting pictures I didn't chose to see. f I wanted, I would have done it without being forced to see it shoved into my face.
If you think "The @iamgod guy probably is a paedophile, based on his crude comments on the clothed girls, but we're talking about young clothed girls out in public sitting in a park or just wearing hot pants. That is not porn! That's just a pervert! And an upvote doesn't signify agreement."
if he could possibly be a pedophile and certainly a pervert, then this is the more reason to be aware of his actions and flag him out of steemit as you indicated.
As for the possibly innocent people that upvoted and got involved in the accusation. I said in my replies before and I will say it again. I invite them to build trust with steemians and build their reputation again. They will be supported if people find they are sincere.
Yes, I agree with the flagging. It is the "guilty by association" post I am disputing should not have been endorsed. They didn't get involved voluntarily as far as we know. Their upvotes could be automated as said by others and labelling these things as "child porn" makes people scared to look, which means who was to know that the "helping daddy with dinner" post was actually a grown woman!
Why do you believe somebody accused of such slander should have to rebuild trust that they should not have lost in the first place had it not for being misled by this sensationalised post!? It is @titusfrost's responsibility to issue an apology to his followers and admit that he exaggerated the nature of these posts. He is responsible for the witchhunt.
It is his responsibility to call off his dogs!
I agree that @titusfrost should probably apologize for using strong words in his post. However, I still support his stance of condemning a bad behavior and depending on how much he believes in what he did, his strong feelings appeared in his actions and words.
About the people you spoke of making automatic votes. They still have responsibility for their votes (automatic or not) as well. Everyone is responsible for their actions or lack of it. I say this because I feel strongly against pedophilia as well.
We are all working to build trust and reputation anyway. Nothing is wrong with that. If they don't want to, it's up to them. However, I don't see how @titusfrost apology will change much if they just pretend to be victims of their own choices without proving themselves to be sincere.
@therealwolf himself said that he found other "unacceptable contents" but he upvoted one he found acceptable, which was not child porn! This means he made a voting choice fully aware of the other contents. No?
Good job you found one of many of these:
she looks 12-13
She's actually a cover girl for MET-ART
http://met-art.adultimages.org/met-art-jasmina-presenting/
Unlikely that they would be publishing underage girls
The last few pictures of this post were disgusting. And looking under 18 or young, is generally preferred to satisfy those who enjoy child porn. So even if she is technically 18, it still doesn't change the fact that she looks like a young teen, and these pictures will attract those who get aroused looking at young naked girls (not adult women)
That's funny you are not posting the other two posts I marked which are child porn.
Fine bye. See ya.
They're not child porn. Go ahead and call the police to have me arrested. I live in Ireland.
Even if these did constitute porn, which they don't, not all the people you accused upvoted these. The majority of the posts are even tamer than this.
Dude are you fucking kidding me!
Those images show clearly under age girls nipples clear as day, that is fucking child porn you disgusting fuck.
So call the police.
I can easily find photos like this on facebook, and even they have an irrational no nipples policy. Just because you see a nipple doesn't make it porn.
Genitalia and sexual activity with children was what I was too afraid to see in those posts. That would suggest serious child abuse! Not a nipple we can see on any man on a hot day or woman at the beach!
What you implied with this post were serious accusations that led to a witch hunt. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feared the worst after reading this post!
Cherry picking to suit your argument.
Thanks for proving my point.
Where is the explicit description? Where is the sexual activity?
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/22/section/2/enacted/en/html
“child pornography” means—
(a) any visual representation—
(i) that shows or, in the case of a document, relates to a person who is or is depicted as being a child and who is engaged in or is depicted as being engaged in explicit sexual activity,
(ii) that shows or, in the case of a document, relates to a person who is or is depicted as being a child and who is or is depicted as witnessing any such activity by any person or persons
I will have you note, no where in the Irish legal definition does it require "genitalia" to be shown, and had you not removed those images from my blog I was going to call the Irish National Police Force this morning. You post any more content like that and I will be calling and I have your car's license plate number. 172-KE-313.
You want to call my bluff again go ahead I dare you.
I'm calling your bluff. Call the police.
You believe that I have committed a serious crime. You could in fact be criminally negligent not to call the police if that is your belief.
Incidentally, it appears to be Steemit Inc that removed the pictures from my post.
What sexual organs or activity is shown in the photos??? Note that nipples are not genitalia.
Why are you so worried about then? Because you know that authorities would agree that is fact child porn, by definition.
And for people being so worried about money generated from this post that he's said he'll donate, how much money have y'all made on your child porn? Sick f@cks! People really need cut the pedophile sympathy bs, that's a sickness itself.
For one this is complete libel, you are referencing one person, not "various members".
The One person you are referencing, up voted on a post of that girl that looks about 14 years old standing in a thong. I stated the evidence against him clearly above, I showed people the post, and I did not include the picture of the girl I believe is under age. For you to re post that content without knowing the age of the girl, is despicable. Just leave the link if you must.
Furthermore the account @IAmGod was the main object of the story and thus the shame should be on them not me. Seriously shame on the accuser? GTFO of here.
What basis do you have for this?