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RE: Fair Use With Steemit

in #steemit8 years ago

I too am following and enjoy your material (Fee Fees hilarious!) but side with content junkie's comments here. Even the definition you used in fair use specifies "brief excerpts" which covers your book and movie reviews arguments - they use excerpts as the law says, to make comments and critiques, which is fair use even if they make money. The networks might even have to pay a licensing fee like radio stations, but part of the system that book and movie reviewers operate in includes the possibility of promotion of the movie, book, etc, whereby the content creator earns money as a result of the review.
A painting or photo is a complete work in itself, it can't be so easily excerpted and is more likely being exploited. The internet made copying images so darn easy that theft is almost hard too hard to police anymore, but you still can't take a photographer's work and put it in a print magazine and get away with it for very long, you will be sued. Some artists pay huge tuitions to go to school to do what they do, so it's best to pay them to repost their images (legally, and for those who want to press their rights, you are found to be mitigating/diluting the potential future value of their work, not "promoting them" as some will argue - both are true, but if they didn't ask for your help promoting, then... ); if you can't pay them, asking permission is the next best, but in the internet age we typically just right click and paste, so a link back to your source is the absolute minimum that should be done. Mistakes happen, we can all get lazy, but as a practice....? Uncool.
Also I agree that posting on Steemit will be found in time by courts to count as commercial use - the payoff factor as a motivator just can't be ignored. Just my opinion tho. However, it's better to police ourselves to prevent lawmakers from having to get involved. I'm afraid the community is going to essentially vote against you on this one. Still following tho!

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Thank you for the input and for following.
If Steemit will be found in time by courts to count as commercial use then we will all start getting taxed and have to legally create a company to use steemit.
people use fair use (mself included) on youtube all the time and make money off the vids. you could say the ad revenue is what they are making money off of not the video but I could say in the same way im not making money off my posts just the upvotes.
im not trying to get away with posting others work and claiming it is mine to make a buck im just getting tired of a post getting flagged because it has a photo in it without a link to it. a link to where you stole the pict from is not permission t use it. so unless your using the pict in a fair use context then adding a link is no better then not adding one.
I will continue to use pictures in accordance with fair use and when someone points out how I uncorrectly I will fix it if I am in the wrong.

People that do movie/book reviews on youtube and make money, they fall under fair use and do not have to get permission even if it is a bad review and actually makes the book/movie lose money from it.

I honestly don't see a problem with people correctly using fair use. I do see a problem with people flagging for plagiarism when the person flagging doesn't understand the laws.

Thanks for the comment again. hope im not t much of an ass. 8D

Sure, not being an ass at all. I just think you're being adamant about an argument that you are wrong about and going to lose ultimately! As said my opinions about fair use are separate from your flagging troubles - and if you're right then you have a very legitimate gripe the top tier should address. And of course bad reviews is a possibility...

Finally, we actually WILL all have to pay tax on our SBD, I will probably post an article on this one day. While there's no tax (yet) on digital currency I don't think, the second it hits your U.S. bank account in USD it becomes taxable, period. Whether it falls under income tax, capital gains, or windfall will be trickier to define, and will be different depending upon circumstance. Another author here already has a good piece on documenting expenses that accompany "blogging for income" - we're all going to need advice like that once this thing blows up, count on it!

the day i we have to pay tax on sbd I quit steemit. the currency is no longer any good to me. the sbd never has to go into a bank account, cant you stick in a digital wallet and use a bitcoin atm? the second it becomes taxable is the second it is traceable and loses its ability to purtace stuff with it and stay anonymous. just like I can go buy something from the neighbor with cash and their is no paper trail. the second that happens I drop all my crypto into physical gold and watch it all crumble.

but that's a whole other thing.

like I said earlier though im not looking to go around and post a bunch of others work. if I happen to be using thers pictures in a way that falls under fair use im going to do it.

this is the stuff I usually do that are others pictures that I use.
https://steemit.com/halo/@skeptic/steemit-girl-halo-playboy-sharia-edition
https://steemit.com/feminism/@skeptic/memes-from-feminism-and-motorcycles-by-moony

idk I post all kinds of stuff.
like I said if I do post stuff and it does not fall under fair use I will happily fix it. im not trying to get in trouble, just point out that we can use pictures that are copywritten if they are used under fair use.

I would like to think im not a blogger. im my own thing. 8D

I am not intending any of the above to reflect opinions on the flagging issue btw.

Yeah, i figured that. i followed back.

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