Need suggestion To Make Steemit Alive For Long Term
Request and Advice to all Bidding Bots to help steemit community:
In the fast growing steemit community and selling of thousands SBD votes per hour.
We should follow some rules in order to help the steemit community and work for the long term existence of the steemit reward pool .
If we are offering such high votes to every one who do not deserve the vote This way steemit life will end soon.And this way no one will get any benefits from the platform. We must think about the steemit success rather than our own success.
what i thought last night that If we should follow some rules here to make the steemit more secure and profitable for every one and give a chance to the new users as well we need to follow some rules and restriction.
The main problem these days are a trending page . Every one with a shit post is going to trending page.and it make a very Bad impression on steemit site.
What we need to follow As a good steemian?
We should place a limit on daily vote buying like one person will only be able to buy 20 SBD vote per post per voting bot {maximum}.( If no any better suggestion you want to give you can write in comment to this post).
If a Bot owner is 100% sure that there is some one who is the perfect author and he give quality stuff to steemit they can make a special list for those authors to allow them to buy an unlimited votes.But if they are 100% sure that the author is perfect one.
By placing a limit Like refund amount on post having max "X" amount Of "STU" ,No one will get a post value more than 200 STU . ( if our limit is 200 STU)
I found most of the users are using steepshot and they are just taking a single picture and make it to the trend page this should be blacklisted if some one noticed that they are posting low quality pictures .
We should make a discord group that we can communicate how we can serve any quality to the steemit rather than flagging each other and fight in posts and comments with each other.
All we need to help each other and help steemit community to get the better result for future.If we are harming the system it will end end soon and no one will be able to get life time secure income .
I have seen so much effort from the @berniesanders @transisto and many other steemians who are trying to flag trash post so they are wasting there steempower on flagging . So please i we all cooperate with each other we will help to build the community easily.
If we become a reason to harm the steemit blockchain who will get benefits, Our income will also be effected and others steemians who are working hard on there post will also be effected.
Self voting is not in our hand to control .Its Only Possible If steemit stop upvoting our own posts so that will be a solution .
The other one if we place limit on buying votes that will be a very positive way to help steemit reward pool .When Bidding Bot will not accept any post having a post value of Max @200 STU .
Suggestion From All experts
Its a request to All whales to not flag my post i am just investing on the post to get some thing positive to steemit and to let every bot owner know that we need to be unite and help each other and steemit community.
Every one knows that by investing the page i am not getting a high return from this post as well i will promote is only t let every one know what is our duty and how we will secure the steemit and i need each and every responsible person suggestion on this problem. if some one has better solution they can comment on the post .
Every one has right to think about the steemit success and i am also doing the same thing here . I know we need to make it secure to make steemit alive for long term .
its a request to give your positing opinion on this problem and lets share your own thoughts.
I have posted a proposal for fixing those issues right here:
How to make Steem great again - The Exponential Author Reward Method
Discuss!
An interesting idea, but I think you've identified its end result - split accounts spamming the hell out of the platform. Your proposed solution to this problem (community-driven downvote service) would have the same fate the today's effort to discourage bad actors have - the flag wars.
But, if we could somehow prevent one person from having multiple accounts your idea would solve the problem.
I agree the solution is reward distribution algorithm. But wouldn't your solution incentivised censorship?
The solution should be in sence:
Those rules would disincentivised bots because of opportunity cost and voting power costs.
A good inspiration could be Augur since it is sort of similar problem they are solving.
(quality post = lot of people vote for it)
This post, with over $50.00 in bidbot payouts, has received votes from the following:
postpromoter payout in the amount of $159 USD.
upme payout in the amount of $75 USD.
rocky1 payout in the amount of $45 USD.
appreciator payout in the amount of $37 USD.
promobot payout in the amount of $35 USD.
upmewhale payout in the amount of $34 USD.
buildawhale payout in the amount of $32 USD.
minnowbooster payout in the amount of $27 USD.
dailyupvotes payout in the amount of $3 USD.
brupvoter payout in the amount of $2 USD.
profitvote payout in the amount of $1 USD.
honestbot payout in the amount of $1 USD.
For a total calculated bidbot upvote value in the amount of $450 USD.
This information is being presented in the interest of transparency on our platform @alishannoor and is by no means a judgement of your work.
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Oh the irony :D btw, good bot, have this tip!
Yes, there is a belief that a message will not be seen if a bidbot is not used to propel it to the trending list. Problem is, if everyone believes this, then eventually, messages will NOT be seen, just paid for.
This is true and it's held me back from diving in more with posts even though I think this platform is amazing.
It is amazing, I hope we can keep it.
@bycoleman
now you earn my support thank you for listening :-)
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social communication is what makes steemit a great place
Thank you, your feedback and all others are helping shape this to be as useful to the platform as I can make it.
Blessings!
vote my post
Why should anybody upvote your post?!
@hanen I have no idea why people leaving such comments, and what do they expect. but it sometimes makes me laugh
Yes they are very creative when it comes to Spam Comments :)
Don't respond to spam, just flag it and move on. Don't forget YOU are the moderators of steemit.
voate me
I vote for you as a witness, is that Okay?
Flag you? OK!
OKEY .
Funny indeed.
give back
Yes. We need to work for steemit alive for long term. Thanks for your suggestion.
Bidding bots somehow plays an important role in steemit community if it is used correctly but some or I may say many of our fellow steemians abused it and use bots to gain $$$ without considering a worth reading article. I think its hightime to come-up a black-n-white rules for the bidding bots to wipe-out those abusers.
how to avoid breaking the rules in steemit
You could ask people like some of the infamous flaggers to target some of the crappy posts on the trending page. You could also undelegate to the bots and do some manual curation yourself.
so what would make your post that much more worthy than any other to merit a 400 dollar value?
your proposal is to put a 200 cap on posts and to get that message throug you make a 400 dollar post? that seems a bit hypocritical to me...
you wrote a small post, gave an opinion and upvoted it to the moon... why should you get more then the 20 you propose? just because you are talking about a specific subject???
You are even asking bot owners not to flag you so I assume that in your mind you think you are doing something wrong?
by the way that is exactly what smartsteem is doing
I am not interested to face a loss by getting flag to bring my post to trend page i am not posting any thing from last month . why i invest on this post to bring it to trend to send my message to all bidding bots owners . and to bring a unity in the community . even i know i will get flags . but what is the reason i am getting flag its looks like a well planned game . even i think about the benefit of steemit still i am facing this shitty flags .
Suggestion: Have some way to allow mass entry of participants on to steemit. Similar to how FB or twitter or any other social network that has millions of subscribers.
The issues of spam and garbage post will need to be worked on but the more users the more use of the platform. Thanks!
No bidding bots!
Biggest problem I see is no rewards on post over 7 days. Those post should continue to make money no matter how old there are. How are you going to get members to think long term platform and quality post when after 7 days they don't get paid for their post anymore. Seems very short term... Might be why everyone up votes their post and comments considering you only have 7 days to make money on them and then the chance is gone. With so many new people joining the platform why shouldn't you get paid for 80k new members viewing your quality product that were not there the month before. Think of how much content that has been posted here over the last year that is quality and not earning. I think you would see less people come here and then be gone if 2 months later if they were still earning on those older post. Long term thinking for the platform would mean long term for the members also which would mean long term earning on quality post that will continue to earn and pay out for new up
votes no matter how old they are.
Great thought. I agree with you 100%. The content creators should continue getting royalties for their original work.
That way people would be willing to put more thought and effort towards creation of high quality content.
Agree, some posts are still usefull even when a year old while others get old very quickly. It should be determined by users not some arbitrary date.
Well they could at lest allow you to promote your older post and then give you another 7 day pay out period and that way steemit will be getting the money from promoting and you get the new views and up votes.
well
Originally, rewards were distributed in two stages: after 24 hours and after 30 days. But in practice, there were few votes after a couple of days.
Older posts should still help you get new followers.
That sounds good but the platform changes often with all the new members coming you may have posted something a year ago that only 40k members could have seen that now can be pushed to 10 times that. You should at lest be able to promote old article you have written. Everyone wants the platform to change and not be so short term everyone just trying to make a quick buck but how are you going to get anyone to care about long term when long term is 7 days since that is the extent of your article earnings that is why people don't worry about long term and only up vote their own comments they make daily to the max. This is why I can't get real bloggers to come spend their time here because their blogs are making money consistently so they spend their time there. I like the platform but it has problems with only being short term that is why half the accounts I go threw and look at have not posted in over 8 months and if your going to make quality content you can make more money blogging on your own so this has turned into a post pictures content and bid bots.