It's the same logic that has worked over and over again in other civilized countries...the proof is that good gun control works. With all due respect (and I do mean that...I do have great respect for you and your experiences), I'm going to disengage from this conversation because it won't get either of us anywhere. That being said, thank you for having a civil conversation about it, and I do hear your arguments. I (and the majority of the world) just happen to disagree with them.