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RE: Announcement: STEEM Chess Tournament Saturday 04 January 20 GMT (finished!)

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I would also prefer the championship all in one day.
Also I suggest at least one of the tournaments without time increment, e.g. 5+0 instead of the 5+2.
And maybe have a "super champioship" with a 10+0 added?

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Thanks for the suggestions!

In one day will be to long as it will touch too many time zones, we had this tested a few month ago with 3 tournaments, at least there where only a few left. In two days it is more realistic and I think this could be the best way. First day 2 hours, second 1 hour plus extra games if needed. In any case it should be on one weekend, not on two or three.

Without time increment I will never organize anything. The reason is easy: it is not chess at all, just the better mouse and connection wins. All players from Venezuela will be out and other countries also. The better player have always the possibility to berserk and make it both without increment, so they can do it without any problem. In the tiebreak games they may decide it for themselves. I see only 3 players capable of doing it without increment, 50 will be left behind.

10+0 or something like this long need at least 2 hours to make any sense and then the waiting time will be up to 20 minutes if only a few players are there, it is complicated.... maybe for a special event.

There is also second side of medal of time-increment.
On ladder, I play always Blitz without increment.
When playing with time increment, the late game becomes generation of random moves, the player who clicks faster wins, not the one who is better. Without time increment, the one who spent too much time in early game, loses, or at least people try to mate or draw during last seconds, not try to click anywhere just faster than enemy.
How many people from Venezuela are there? They have one of the most stupid governments of the world, country is destroyed :(

Dear Maciej,

from my perspective as a chess trainer I can say that you only improve your chess with longer games with increments. Flagging and tricking your opponents may be a nice skill for some good fun but, and this is proven, it will not make you a better chess player overall. You see your ratings of bullet is 200 points higher than blitz, this is totally unusual. It should be the other way around. And yes, we have quite a lot of players from Venezuela, a country which got destroyed from the outside as so many other countries all over the world. Our tournaments try to get the balance between fun and improvement without letting the weaker players loose every game. And you are free to berserk so that you have no increment and play without thinking just for fun. Players like Carlson or Nakamura, top of the world, play only without increment on the internet, in real life the always play with increment. They say it openly, the only reason is to trick the opponents in the last seconds and win 99.99% of their games. I left my chess club in the town because they never use increment and tricked the weaker ones even with a piece down, no fun at all.

Ok, I will try to play with increment during next 2 weeks.
However, I think top players like Carlsen/Nakamura play with increment in real life because it takes longer to move pieces with real hand instead of mouse.
Look what happened on this video: Alireza has advantage over Carlsen but loses because shaking hands:


But rest of Your respond sounds professional, so I will stick to it. I wish You nice day.

This game was a display of Carlsen superior endgame skills. His opponent does not manage to win with 3 pawns more. And we saw the best two players on earth here! Without increment the whole video would have been only a few seconds. If Carlson had taken the pawns it would have been a draw, so it was a technical win for him as it was possible for him to win with a lot of help from his opponent. Alireza wanted to win and lost. He could run away with his king and let the pawns stay undefended then it would have been a draw if Carlson had taken the pawns, but he did not and tricked him in the end.

I have improved very well by analyzing every lost game after the game. If I play just for fun my rating is dropping like a stone :) Good luck!

They played online last week: 3+0

I've just opened the same video 3 minutes ago and now I see You sent it to me :)

Stimmt, ich geb Dir in allen 3 Punkten recht. Das hatte ich nicht bedacht.

Wichtig ist es sich darüber klar zu werden, damit haben deine Anregungen viel zur Klarheit beigetragen. Nur blöd. dass sich die Diskussion jetzt auf mehrere Posts verteilt, dann auch noch auf dem neuen discord und im chat ... wir brauchen eine klare Linie, vieleicht auf discord? Link ist im champion post.

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