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RE: Update: Communities/Hivemind

in #steem7 years ago

Thank you for this great update @roadscape! I can't tell you how excited I am for all of this to be available and how appreciative I am of the hard work you're doing to make it happen!

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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It’s my intention that hive creates the infrastructure which helps ALL contribute much more effectively. It’s amazing to see how far we’ve come with such primitive tools. But it’s time for a major upgrade.

Hive core gives developers a flexible layer which allows them to create more powerful tools and interfaces.

Hive communities give everyone the ability to ORGANIZE around a set of values, and the power to do so effectively. It also introduces a new dynamic of influence which does not have anything to do with SP. Minnows can mute whales. Unlike other platforms the moderation log will be fully transparent.

Such a system will be far more effective than anything we have today for connecting creators and curators. Curators will be attracted to communities which are well-organized: focused, high-quality, low-noise.

Easier to curate good content = easier to get paid for good content. Curators influence the flow of rewards, but their tools are crude. Now the power will be in your hands.

I truly look forward to the future and the coming technology you describe. The current environment just doesn't end up being sufficient to attract and maintain committment from excellent content creators in each niche field. There are so many users and groups out there who are dedicated to keeping the quality of content on steemit as good as it possibly can be. Attracting top talent requires the face of the platform they arrive to see to be an extremely appealing one. One in which they can see themselves having success and building a strong following.

Better connecting creators and curators will (hopefully) go a long way to aiding in the building and development the of this environment.

I am, excited for what you all have and continue to develop. It sounds like exactly what this platform needs to make the jump to the next level.

The fact that you wrote these four words in bold characters, gives us hope.

Ask any of the (established) creators and curators in this network what's the most important thing to them in the process of content production and evaluation, and I bet at least 90% will reply: quality.

You can either build a blockchain where value is defined through speculation or a blockchain where value is backed by a product in top quality. An outstanding product is also the no. 1 driver to a stable user retention.

Looking forward!

That's the short of it ;)

I can only join my voice to those of all Steemians focusing on quality content on top of anything else. I am so happy to read your words and the fact that content still matters for the people up there.

I am as well very excited to try all new functionalities as soon as they will appear!

@roadscape, this all looks good and sounds promising, and.... well, I'm with @surfermarly in saying that "connecting creators and curators" sounds great!

The reason that makes me happy is that it has often seemed like almost everything that comes from STINC is about developers and apps and SMTs... which is all good and fine, but there's a large population of us who live down here at what you might call the "retail level" of Steemit.

Our concern isn't what we can develop but how we can interact with the site, with the content, and with each other. The biggest challenge we face is that content discovery is difficult and often clumsy. We have few fundamental social content tools to make the curation process easier. Even on Farcebook and twatter, you can (for example) sort the people you follow into "groups" from which you can create custom feeds.

I feel hopeful that hivemind/communities will allow for better categorization of content... and NOT ONLY for those who speak fluent C++. php or whatever technical underpinnings run this place. We need tools on Steemit that work along the lines of "explain this to me like I'm a five-year old."

Yes, it IS amazing how far we've come with "primitive tools!" (Thank God I still remember how to speak HTML!) and kudos for that. On the other hand, to gain ANY sort of mass market following, this needs to become a slickly coded, user-friendly, intuitive user interface.

I hope that's at least PART of what's on the way!

Our concern isn't what we can develop but how we can interact with the site, with the content, and with each other. The biggest challenge we face is that content discovery is difficult and often clumsy.

I couldn't have said this any better @denmarkguy!

What you call 'retail level' is the majority of users :-)

I've done all my blog posts in HTML, too, since the editor would've never allowed me to professionally design my articles. That's completely fine - for you and me and a couple of more people. But it's a barrier for the masses.

The average user needs usability, guidance and tools to easily bring their content on the blockchain. They also don't want to search content, they want it to be offered.

But hey, we've been giving the same advices for months. In Germand I'd say now:

Let's nail jelly to the wall.

:-)

Absolutely.

Curators are the future of community building and if this happens according to your comment, then steem will not only be the first of it's kind, it will be the best. The thought of the ability of any empowered curator to reward good content gives inexplicable joy.

Am sure a lot of people are looking forward to this, thank you! Quality is still an integral part of this platform, this is great news.
Kudos!!

Great to read about the quality focus and progress in general @roadscape. I was owning and moderating communities in other social networks that paid in the past and it was a game changer - positive as well as negative - hence i was so curious from the first announcement to hear more details on how that will work from the tech side and group / community structure - ownership / moderators - separate accounts to be created or not. Think I annoyed @andrarchy a lot with bombarding questions long ago. I can't wait to get that live soon but i learned to be patient - keep them coming!

It is so awesome to hear that the encouragement of quality content is part of the focus of these upcoming additions. I love that this will make it easier for curators to find and encourage the creation of engaging content.

Now this here is something that gets you excited and hopeful. Creators and Curators getting Connected is the way communities should function, and no other way.
When influence comes based on how well we are and not what amount of SP we wield, the system will get the respects it deserves and the users the reward.

Thanks @roadscape for the time put into this project.

that's indeed the way to go. Communities should take the responsibility to curate within their own communities thus strengthening the bond within. So looking forward to this to launch !

@roadscape I guess the community has spoken. :) Thank you for all the great work and the hours spent and the care you've put on this.

It’s amazing to see how far we’ve come with such primitive tools. I felt the same when I first came across steem around nine months ago. Though there were many tools created by the community they were not easily accessible to the new entrants on Steem blockchain. People generally join the platform thinking it is like any other social media/blogging platforms. But when they see that there is a learning curve that they were not aware of earlier, many people hang their boots. So it is important to make sure that these tools reach the hands of the right people who are in need of them.

From my experience in running a welcome bot @steemladder I have realised that just directing the people to the Steem Blue Paper has helped them a lot and they are better aware of the platform, difference between Steem/Steemit and how to navigate the platform. Once the dev tools get better we will have more people from community addressing these issues and onboarding of new users should become much smoother. All the best.

On a side note we are currently working on a platform that will enable running publications like Medium currently does. People can start a publication by creating a separate account for the publication. Then users can create posts as a part of that publication(the posts will be published by publication steem account) and the rewards will be shared with authors based on the pre-defined agreement. Do you think it is better to go ahead with the development or is it better to wait for the hive to be released. Also would love if you can give some suggestions so that it will be easier for us switch from the current endpoints to hive based API endpoints. If we have some insights we can prepared :P

The first version of the hive API will offer the same endpoints, so if you wanted to start now it's an easy switch. However the v2 APIs will be more powerful; they will return a lot less data but the data that is returned will be much more useful.

Thanks for the clarification @roadscape. All the best for the release.

"Hive communities give everyone the ability to ORGANIZE around a set of values, and the power to do so effectively. It also introduces a new dynamic of influence which does not have anything to do with SP. Minnows can mute whales. " Can you elaborate more?

Communities allow groups to form and work together to curate content they care about, to their standards. We of course have this to some extent already, except it's not possible to "claim" a tag as yours in any official capacity, nor is there the ability to brand your community on-site, or to appoint moderators. Currently SP is the only moderation system; hive communities introduces more powerful options and the ability to OWN your collective space.

Wubalubadub dub...... Rick

were goin to bendigo

Yeah i feel in the same way. All depends on thinking that you can do every think and this guy is going forward.

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