If You Really Want To Stand Out On Steemit, Do This!!!!

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

There is a principle that many success experts suggest called "act as if".

The basic concept here is that if you want to be a particular way, act as if you are already that way.

For example, if you want to be a successful writer, start acting as if you already had that success. What actions does that person take? How long is spent writing? What approach is used to writing? How does one market the works?

By mirroring that actions of that which we want to be, over time we mentally see ourselves as such. In addition, we also start to get some of the same results as that individuals since our actions will create them.

I bring this up because many people on here want to be heavy hitters. They look at the accounts of many and see 50K SP; 100K SP; or even more. Since that is what most of us aspire to, we should look at the behavior of those individuals to see what we can learn and model.

Yesterday I posted a topic about my results with commenting. As I shared, there is great value in commenting. Over the course of a week, I made $235.

https://steemit.com/steem/@taskmaster4450/i-made-usd230-in-7-days-just-from-posting-comments-on-steem-you-can-too

Not only is commenting a great way to make some money, it is also a path to getting some followers. Posting comments enables people to learn about you. Through some interaction, people will visit your blog. This all aids in helping your account grow.

There is one other aspect to this. If you goal is to start out, there is another action that can be taken with comments to aid in this. It is also a behavior the heavy hitters exhibit on a regular basis.

The action is UPVOTING COMMENTS.

If you truly want to be recognized as someone different from the masses, start upvoting the comments of other people. This is something that is rarely done by minnows yet it is one of the easiest ways to stand out.

The post I linked has 130 votes in it. With so many upvotes, it is hard to see anyone but the largest of voters (who appear on the top). After that, the list just goes on with many of the smaller voters not even appearing on the drop down when I click on it. Therefore, many people will be lost.

However, the situation is not the same in the comment section. Very few people voted for comments. Those with multiple ones mostly contain upvotes from the author and, perhaps, one or two other people (one of them being myself). Doing a quick scan, I do not see any comments with even close to 10 votes with 6 being the most I saw.

From a competition standpoint, upvoting comments on a regular basis will put you in select company. Few people do it to a large degree. Posting regular comments will catch my attention.....upvoting my comments on a regular basis will really grab me.

As I said at the beginning of this post, acting as if is a great way to begin to create the reality of what you are desiring. Many heavy hitters will upvote a number of quality comments in posts they are reading. This does not apply to their own works. I noticed a number who will come through and upvote 5 or 6 different comments of an article I wrote. To me, this carries a lot of weight.

Give it a try. I know it is tough in the beginning when you do not have the slider bar (logging in with Busy.org will fix that). However, this is one of the easiest ways to get on the radar of other people.

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The action is UPVOTING COMMENTS.

I handed this tip out multiple times yesterday for the reasons above.

And in addition to that, users will lower SP (< 1000/2000) are likely to receive more rewards in curation from the comments they vote, when compared to being in 200th position in voting order on a post paying 200/300.

This, as far as I am aware isn't common knowledge, as I suspect not many larger accounts wish to state 'don't vote for my post it's not worth it, I won't see your vote and you will receive 0.001 or nothing in rewards!'

What they will see though is a solid comment/reply and a vote on their comments.

As always, sound advice for the new recruits here, cheers :D

That is an amazing point that I didnt think of.

To make your curation somewhat more valuable, start upvoting posts. The fact that you stand out also means that you have less of a pool to share with on that comment.

This is a fact that needs to be spread around some more.....curation rewards are still something that is misunderstood...I know you are doing your best to bring it to light.

Yeah, most of the time it could be just your single vote on a comment = all the curation reward is yours.

A vote of 0.01 on a huge post could mean your reward being less than 0.001 which is the lowest that can be paid.

I'd rather see newer accounts focus on engagement over curation rewards, and I'm willing to pay the best engagers each week as you have probably seen :D

It is a great idea @abh12345. And yes I am aware you are paying through your curation reward league...it is something I will have to take a closer look at.

You words here this morning reminded me of a great path for all of us to take with our curation......

And how much of an asset it can be in creating a stream of SP flowing into our accounts on a daily basis.

We all want to swim with the Whales and take home what they do, but as you alluded, even a Dolphin upvote can get lost in a very popular post with the Orcas and Whales all upvoting.

even a Dolphin upvote can get lost in a very popular post with the Orcas and Whales all upvoting.

Yes very true, especially if we wish to share our votes out to many which as a #stewardsofgondor member, is something I think we should all be trying to do.

The SOG Stalking Program.

We stalk each other all over Steemit. 😀

It is unlikely there is a community that is more committed to engagement on the platform, and so very likely we will bump into each other often! :D

I already do...I cant go anywhere without slamming into @goldendawne.

She is everywhere on here.

I am still wrapping my head around all of this, but do you think it's for this reason that when a heavy hitter like berniesanders comments and upvotes his comment, it is an upvote of like 70 different "voters"? Is that so he doesn't have to share any of the curation rewards? Again I don't really understand how this works but I was curious as to why his upvote isn't just worth 1 upvote, haha.

Now i get it. I observed that i get larger curation rewards on comments that i upvoted than even some posts that have high pay out. Thanks for the light you throw here

Great :D I'm glad you have spotted this!

I didn't know that you get curation rewards for that. Thank you!

It is hard, as a smaller user...but that's to be expected. It comes down to attention, and how best to get it - and the comments section is a great place to start.

And I agree with you re: prioritising the comments over hoping to get a little back in curation for upvoting the original post. In the comments, you are at least visible - and it's what you do with that visibility which goes to determine your "success" (do you define success in $$ or attention).

Indeed. Most of us started with nothing, and are aware of the early struggles.

It takes time and commitment, plenty of comments are key for sure.

do you define success in $$ or attention

Attention will bring $$ in time, and they are part of being successful here I guess. It's nice to have your work appreciated and commented on, making friends with common interest I would also consider a success.

Good luck to you :)

Thank you.

I totally agree...attention brings $$, not the other way around. Too many people are chasing $$ when they should be chasing attention. Money always follows attention, no matter whether you're on Steemit, another social platform, TV, radio.

My pleasure, I'm with you 100% :D

Well I couldn't not read that article and not comment here and say. . . Great article, good tip, I'll try it right away.

Hi @abh12345 , this is Solid addition to @taskmaster4450 post! Thanks.

By the way, I replied to your comment in the 10 Examples to Add Value, and it would be great to get the information of what you did, so I added on the examples before the post expires in editing time.

Regards, @gold84

Cheers!

Yes, sorry about that - sometimes a reply does slip through the net - I've reprimanded myself accordingly, and sent you a reply :)

Interesting notion on curation rewards for comments and I sometimes upvote comments as well especially if it brings so much value to the discussion.

The more interactions we get and reward meaningful ones will encourage more people to be engaged.

Great point! Being a neophyte it's all very confusing. Is there a tool that can make clear how the rewards are being distributed? I'm forever confused as to why I get certain rewards for what. I've found Steemviz.com/pending payouts but that's only SBD. Where can I find the SP info and understand how that works a little better? Thanks for helping us newbies!

Nice!

Yea, steem is about building ecosystems, and there are accounts who manage to make communties, as you do @taskmaster4450, to grow the value of content rewarding comments and encouraging the knowledge and discussion...

The most money i've made on Steemit was with a comment, i recevied a 56$ vote... i spended some time making the comment, but jeez, never as much time as i spend on my posts... so yea!

following your advice :)
D.

I had a $40 comment one time...so I know what you are talking about...it is really mind blowing when that happens.

From a person who I am not sure has visited my blog since...

A vote of $56 on a comment, really will get your attention...hell it will on an article.

Dang, that's basically unheard of most of the time. I guess no one really writes long comments? I guess your comment was really, REALLY awesome.

Hehe, in my case, it was just the rigth moment in the rigth time... actually it was @dan who voted me... it was amazing :D

Not only is commenting a great way to make some money, it is also a path to getting some followers. Posting comments enables people to learn about you

I have found some of the best followers, friendships and interaction in the comments' section. I discovered steemit members I would have NEVER known about before. Believe it or not, most of my favorites have come from reading one of my following's posts, seeing ANOTHER member making a comment- so I comment back to the second person. Then I check out his or her page. It's almost as if steemit has a six degrees of separation or connection happening.

six degrees of separation

And you end up finding Kevin Bacon.

lol- wouldn't it be a hoot if the bacon man were on steemit?

Now I'm wondering... are there famous celebrities on steemit? That would be fun!

Not that I have seen...not to the degree you mentioned, not yet.

I have seen some from the alternative news world and one or two from MSNBC but nothing that is head turning.

Over time, this could change as things start to ramp up around here. I think one of the politico types who tend to be a bit out there for the mainstream like Alex Jones or Glenn Beck might be the first.

Maybe we will see Paris Hilton soon.

LOL...If Alex Jones comes to Steemit, that would be insane! What a s**tstorm he's create.

I did see Joe Rogan talking about Steemit a few days/week ago on his podcast/YouTube channel. He was told about it by his producer, and Joe was very positive on the idea, and said "if they did that with video, it would be great", but they didn't mention/know about DTube. And Joe Rogan is a MASSIVE online personality - he'd bring a tidal wave of attention with him.

Yes Jones would create that...as would many other divisive personalities...at some point they will arrive...not sure when but if STEEM keeps growing, it will happen.

Word is not out to the masses yet, that is obvious. When it does, we will see a flood of people on here. Of course, we need the automated sign up for that to happen. At some point, it all will come together and we will see an explosion.

As I surf the net I come across so many that I say to myself, this person needs to be on STEEM. How to get word to them?

I'm completely anonymous on steemit...just... Cuz. Lol

But it always makes people say but...whooooooooo are you?

And it makes me think...as far as anyone knows there COULD be celebrities here that are incognito!!! I kinda like writing without worrying about people in my real life reading and knowing details about me that would be easier to read (and write) from a stranger's perspective.

I think there ARE famous people already here... They're just not interested in using their name to gain anything.theyre using this more as a way to connect to people WITHOUT the fame attached.

Just my opinion.

But maybe I'm speaking from experience..... Maybe I'M famous

Hahahaha totally kidding. I'm not

Orrrrrrr am I???? 😂😂😂😂

Oh my gosh. I would make the worst spy in the world.

Hahahahahahahshahaha!

This is EXAAAAAAACTLY what I do too.... Lolol sooner or later the masses will catch on!!! We just need to all keep saying it lol

I've honestly never, ever thought to do this... what a great suggestion! As @abh12345 suggested, it makes sense that you could make a lot more in comment curation than you ever could in post curation. It would actually be totally worth figuring out who @crytoctopus upvotes on his blog and getting in first. Does anyone know if there is the same weird formula on comments as with posts, ie, 15 minutes = 50%, 30 minutes = 100%, etc?

More to your point TM, it really does help engagement and just overall friendliness and happiness on the Blockchain if we all upvoted each other's comments. I'd guess few people even read other people's comments...

I didnt think up the curation angle either but @abh12345 was very astute to point it out.

That is a way to really increase the amount someone brings in on his or her votes.

Commenting and supporting each other's comments is what creates community. That is the real value of any ecosystem.

It is also what makes STEEM very strong.

It would actually be totally worth figuring out who @crytoctopus upvotes on his blog and getting in first.

Yep, and you will notice accounts are on this already!

Does anyone know if there is the same weird formula on comments as with posts, ie, 15 minutes = 50%, 30 minutes = 100%, etc?

I believe the same rules apply to posts and comments.

it really does help engagement and just overall friendliness and happiness on the Blockchain if we all upvoted each other's comments. I'd guess few people even read other people's comments...

Absolutely, this is where the real interactions take place. Cheers!

Thanks so much for this dude, so a comment is just a tiny post basically... that's good to know . Your comments and TM's post are actually making me rethink my entire voting approach to Steem. I'm super excited to start to action this... thank you so much!

Good luck!

Check out my Curation league post if you wish to join a community striving to improve their curation, both financially and for the good of the platform.

Cheers!

I'd love to throw a few upvotes around on every post, but as I only have around 130SP, I don't have access to the slider-scale, allowing me to spread my voting around.

My upvote is only worth $0.04 at the moment, but there are so many who's upvote doesn't even register anything - $0.00. I found this so disheartening when I first joined.

Another "tactic" smaller accounts might want to take, is to comment on other people's comments within somebody else's post. That's a way to get more attention, with the poster of the comment, and possibly the author of the post.

But there really aren't any shortcuts. Hard work, consistantly posting great content and becoming a valuable [and authentic] member of the community is how to grow on ANY social platform. Steemit might have its differences, but it's still a social platform - people interacting with people.

The vote slider makes things much more interactive, but if you still comment people will notice. There have been plenty of times I've upvoted a lower rep person even if they didn't do any upvoting because I know what it's like to not have the slider and be running your VP down!

It sucks no having the slider. I hate it so much. I guess it incentives pushing to 500 SP, but I think that the slider could still be used by those who are lower than 500 SP.

Completely agree, with decimals it would still add up correctly, it really limits newcomers ability to show appreciation for content. Hoping they remedy this in updates.

The slider is kind of annoying anyways, scooting your mouse 1% is a pain. I bet they could come up with a similar system that would work for everyone.

Another "tactic" smaller accounts might want to take, is to comment on other people's comments within somebody else's post.

Not only does this garner more attention but it also helps to create interaction. There are some who will actually answer your comment on their comment. Sadly, this also is fewer than should but we have to start somewhere.

Great point.

I view this as a way of bringing additional value to the original poster, and their community (i.e. creating conversations around the post topic), but also as a way of getting on other people's radar. IBut you have to be authentic - throw-away comments and trying to "game the system" can be spotted a mile away.

Of course authenticity is vital. You cant fake this stuff.

I agree there are so many different levels where a conversation in a post can help. It is sad to see so many who just post a comment and move on. It is as if they dont even look at their reply category. I understand many are pressed for time but what is the goal on here.

To make a few comments to get upvoted upon or to start interactions....the first will net a few SP, the later much more SP over time.

Correct. That's the only problem with telling people this method lololl

You don't just give the tool to people who will use it correctly

You give it to everyooooone. And some people will abuse it because .... Well because they have no home training! Lololol
(I love that saying hahaha)

Just another point about votes and SP worth. @m-ssed-t and @taskmaster4450 ...I found a way around that temporarily... I use the tipu program. My 0.1 tip is worth FAR more financially than my vote would be. And it's manual! So I choose who I want to give to... And how much!
I love it and I'm trying to turn people onto it who are like me and can't wait for the VP to recharge lololol (I hover around 15-30% sheesh.)

It's interesting how different comments on steemit are because of that. It's really an incentive to create value and quality. . .
Content in general here is amazing, it must be a great feedback cycle to generate value in such a personal and creative way. My account feels frustrating sometimes but at least I'm seeing some awesome posts daily . . .
Going to try and respond more often in the comments now :)

Comments are the undervalued way to success here on steemit and you´re definitely the master in that discipline. I´m giving my best next to my day job but keep falling behind again and again. I hope that´ll finally change whenever I get more time to spend on steemit soon, cause in 2 months I´ll go "full steem" :)

You and me both @steembusiness.

I am looking at a similar time frame....although I am not sure if my company might have different plans.

Either way, I do not believe it is a long process for me.

Comments are extremely undervalued on here. I guess it is like someone mentioned below, on traditional sites they tend to be cesspits. Too many trollers.

Unlike there, comments actually add to the conversation.

Absolutely! I won't re-write what I already commented below hahahhaa but I'm so excited to see.so many people on the same page!!!!

THIS is the way to fight the negativity that is becoming rampant on steemit.

Don't get frustrated and give up.... Find your tribe and contribute to it!!!! I hope more people see this post.
As a matter of fact I'm resteeming it lol

the upvoting of comments was something I learned about a week ago from someone else. If someone replies to me, I upvote that comment, even though I do not have much steempower to give a dollar value, it is a habit I wish to practice for when I have a greater steempower; it shows that persons reply was valuable to you

That is the big thing @lemondropsblue.

Creating habits that carry forward when we have more SP. Doing it from the beginning will make it much easier down the road.

yes it will. Thank-you

Yeah that's true

it shows that persons reply was valuable to you

the person will always come back to comment when you do this

yes, it promotes engagement, a win win!

What's the phrase - it goes along the lines of:

Most people think if I HAVE xyz, then I will DO xyz and then I will BE that person.

Whereas it should be in reverse:

BE - DO - HAVE

Having said that, I'm guilty of not up voting other's comments as much as I should and will aim to redress the balance.

We all are @stevelivingston.

It is not something we commonly think about....hence we do not do it....yet it is a great way for those with smaller accounts to really make a difference.

Never thought about this. Certainly in posts with lots of comments, it is sometimes harder to read through the comments. I cannot remember upvoting a comment but to tap myself on the shoulder a little bit. I do react sometimes on comments. Even if they aren't posted in a post of me :)
For the minnows it is hard not to run out of Voting Power. When we vote more than 20 times a day, we ran out. We can still up-vote but without making a difference.

A question: whats your opinion about posting a comment without up-voting the post? I do find this hard to do, so I don't. But like told before I quickly ran out of ammo.

IMO, whether I'm a small fish, or when I become larger, if you commented on a post of mine, but didn't upvote the post, I'd be glad to have your input, and thankfull for your attention. There'll always be some people motivated by, and only caring about the $$, but thankfully many Steemians are this way. Do what feels right.

I do feel the same. I rather have a genuine comment that an meaningless up-vote. Both are great but cause I'm still in plankton phase I can understand it.
Also rather have an upvote from somebody who does appreciate my post, than somebody who is it for the curation. (Not that they are getting any with my number).
What I also noticed is that a lot of really big whales aren't posting anymore but still hauling over 300SP a week by curation.

There is nothing wrong with posting a comment without upvoting.

We all know that people, especially those sub 500 SP, run into voting power issues.

You should not limit your commenting simply because you lack the voting power. I would much rather have your comment and not and upvote than neither. With a voting limit, commenting is the other way you can contribute, and you can do that on an unlimited basis.

I Never thought of this. I thought my vp was too low to try that. Though I sometimes upvote replies to my comments. But I think I'll start expanding with this idea. Thanks @taskmaster4450. If minnows are to follow the tips you dropped here on regular basis, am sure they will find their ride on this platform smoother.

I agree too that minnows will have a better time upvoting comments and also starting conversations in comment sections of articles they have read. For me, I'm used to YouTube comment sections, where there is no incentive to write thoughtful or genuine comments. I have still had a few good conversations there, but no as much as here.

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