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RE: Math of Steem: The HF20 vote floor and curation trails
What I would find more interesting than this is what kinds of accounts are part of trails but are going to lose their votes. Are they active accounts, are they 'set and forget', are they curation miners, are they active in other ways or, are all of their votes automated and they aren't actually present on platform at all.
I wonder how many inactive accounts are still voting on trails. Hard to put a number on I guess considering they are still casting votes but perhaps, if they haven't posted, commented or cast any other non-trail vote in some period of time it could give a ballpark number.
SteemAuto appears to avoid casting votes that will be dusted. That's why the trail numbers are different for different sizes of Curie vote. So nobody should lose their entire vote from this effect, but they might lose a significant percentage of it. How much may depend more on how @mahdiyari decides to handle it than on the HF20 changes.
That's an interesting question, though.
I know that I get tiny votes worth nothing from accounts that haven't done anything else for 6-12 months. If the attrition rate is as high as they say, I would suggest that there are many small accounts that have tried to maximize with autovoters but are now dead.
Taken from: https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@crokkon/how-will-the-hf20-dust-vote-changes-affect-the-vote-values
I would expect that may of these accounts on @curie's trail (and the ones front-running bots) don't have 120SP and have around the 15 SP 'starter' amount. These accounts will need something like a 15/120 = 8% vote percentage (if at 100% VP) for the rshares to register.
It's a bit of a pain to work out who will need to alter their approach, but as long as you have 120 SP + and register a 1% vote (at 100% VP), it will count, with less rShares lost % wise, the larger the vote being cast.
Ah yes, this is something we are actually currently trying to brainstorm at Curie.. how we can make changes to ensure those votes aren’t lost, seeing that most are following with a low percentage. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated 😉.
I have a suggestion. (not my area)
Is it possible that the trail will only include voters who pass the threshhold? Or, a voter sets their vote to only trail every second or third curie vote so they can increase the % of the vote without draining SP. I don't know if it is possible at the moment but it seems that it should be simple enough to add for the auto voter platform. What it could mean is that even though there are less accounts in the trail each vote, the vote amount itself won't be adversely affected that much.
1.2 SP at 100% VP and with 100% Vote Weight will count - they will just take a hit with regards to rShares earned.
The accounts receiving the votes don't need to worry, the numbers are tiny. It's the accounts making the votes who may not earn anything, if this is their approach. (And if this is their approach, meh).
I don't think @curie need worry, not much will be lost to the 'voted', it will be the tiny accounts on auto-pilot that will lose out the most.
I actually think this is less of a problem than people think but this is my opinion. The starter amount voters aren't necessarily very active accounts and even though their little votes add up over time, they themselves as accounts may cause more harm than good overall. Also, I stil wonder how many dead accounts are parts of trails. this means that they will vote forever and even if they earn curation it will potentially be locked up forever too.
Same. It's a minor issue to very low SP accounts, most of the 'engaged community' have above the threshold, even with a 1% vote going down.
Maybe they plan to return in 10 years time :) The account may not have grown though due to HF 20 - shame :P
Yep. I feel sorry for people who expect to get something for nothing.