RE: Three points to a healthy Steem
There has been mention of SMT being a curve test-bed, but I've also read that others want the core token sorted out.
I have heard the same and it isn't a bad way but, it has to happen fast and then get applied faster because changing the Steem curve/distribution will continually affect more.
There is a worry that they will become too common, and I wonder what those that are at present being 'clipped' think about 'free flags'.
Yeah, those getting flagged now are likely not going to enjoy it but again, how many are they that are really affected? And how many accounts getting flagged shouldn't be getting flagged. Out of such a small number of users, it can't be many. Also, once there are more real users on the platform, it will be an increasingly decreasing issue. Then moving across to SMTs, it changes again as an account with a lot of SP on Steem might have zero influence on an application.
And another argument suggesting changing nothing will continually affect less as people fade away :)
I could have a look, but I suspect there are not that many that shouldn't be getting flagged. There is a top witness in the line of fire at present, not sure what his thoughts on some freebie flags might be.
lol, yeah.
Yep but then again, there are other targets that suddenly become very much open :)
hahahahah precisely.
I have to disagree that a low amount of people are getting flagged who don't deserve it.
I've seen a tone of people unfairly censored for getting in the middle of the whale war that's been going on for longer than I've been here. In a lot of cases these people are purely collateral damage. They said things along the lines of 'grow up' to the wrong whale and got auto downvotes for life.
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not that many in the scheme of things and rarely are they truly collateral damage, some might be.
I've seen more than 10 people who were collateral damage in the past 20 months. Believe me, I did my research on them when I saw what had happened to them. I remember one guy accused of plagorism and continuously flagged by steemcleaners and when I went back to check the history of posts and ran my own checks there was no plagiarism. This was over a year ago when I was much more active curating for curie and doing a full check for plagiarism was second nature.
I eventually stopped bothering to check everyone I saw who was complaining of having auto downvotes set on then unfairly, as I was wasting so much of my time.
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10 is not that many is my point, a hundred is not either. often the collateral damage are ones who decide it is their business to get in between but expect no response. if you are dealing with crazy people, expect crazy actions.
I was being conservative with 10 as a figure. I simply can't remember exactly how many I saw that I checked up on in my first 8 months on steem. But, as you say...
😂🤣 Absolutely spot on. The only time I had a post flagged was when I made that post called 'flags of love'. The irony wasn't lost on me. I learned not to expect a rational reaction from a lunatic after that, and I think I got off quite lightly tbh.
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I used to go through the new feed and curate but stopped because it too long sorting through the shit and plag that no one was doing anything about. People forget that there were accounts posting hundreds of posts a day until the last HF and RCs were introduced but then, the people who complained about RCs didn't actually spend time looking deeply at the platform.
I haven't been flagged too much other than during the whale experiment in 2017 and people who I cought plagiarising. There have been some odd ones where I bring up topics or ideas some people don't support but, that is to be expected imo.
I remember that time well m8. I was very active with curie trying to make top curator for 6 months to possibly become a reviewer. That was my aim anyway. But the level of work involved in plowing through all the scammers, shit posters and just outright hundreds of new plagiarists joining the platform daily was overwhelming. Pretty much 80-90% of the new and introducemyself tags were scammers. I kind of got an eye for spotting them in the end (and used to keep lists) but as the whole drive of curie is to find those new authors of quality and watch them to make sure they get encouraged with decent rewards it was a difficult job. In the run up to 20000 BTC it was seriously hard work sifting through the muck to find the gems.
I've experienced this too. I used to work in promo-mentors discord and during that 2017 bull run-up I was running a poetry/fiction class that offered vote incentives from the promo-mentors account, and people knew I was a curie curator as well. The community had a lot of African and Philippine members so it was quite an intense workshop I ran helping second language English writers up their game in those disciplines. Anyway, I had this one fella came in all the time. Always with extremely accomplished, well crafted poetry which wouldn't look out of place in a literary anthology. He was always super combative toward me when I offered critique as well, even though my criticisms were few and far between. He asked me for a delegation one day even though I had about 800 SP at the time and something in my head just clicked about him. So I went really deep dive checking all his poems he'd previously brought to the workshop. I had checked two of them previously but had found no evidence of plagiarism. Anyway, after checking around 8 of them I find that one of them is from a very decent African poet and I confronted him over it. He went nuts and tried to rally half the Africans in the community against me until one of them who specialized in writing for steem-stem looks at his poems and called him out. Apparently, most of his poems were from a poet who was famous for performance poetry, who didn't have many of his poems published to paper as standard because he followed an oral tradition. It was one of the most elaborate plagiarism cons I've seen on steem. He flagged me once or twice after that but his name was pretty much mud by that point and after trying to get a rise out of me on discord he left.
I remember at least 2-3 people had to be kicked every week from promo-mentors during that period either for plagiarism or really aggressive vote begging. It was crazy.