On the other these have been here for years what have they done?
Everything has been in the interest of there own pockets.

I think this is where we disagree which is okay :-)

There plan to seperate is poinless.
Which clone can you name that has worked none and thats what a new chain will be.

No fork has ever been able to 'take with them' all the Steemians. I 100% believe Steem will be where the Steemians are. Sun doesn't understand this - if he did he would've been more interested in talking with us. If the Steemians move all he bought was a company (of which now 3 people who are essential already resigned!) and a piece of code that's open source anyway. He'll have nothing if we all leave to another fork of our chain.

So why not work with the guy and build it as he has stated a few times.

This is what we wanted but I think it's too late now. Trust is broken.