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RE: The Bot Voting Debate - A possible solution?
But this would hurt people like me where my wife and I have the same IP. The trails have helped out the new users like me, I think they are very much needed. So as to stopping the bots really I think the best bet is more active users, which would spread out the rewards more and the bots would not be profitable after enough users join.
I didn't suggest ip's at all in fact I clearly said the session is tied to accounts only. Restrictions on IP are not effective and cause problems in general. The only way IP is locked in is of the witness your client relays transactions to during a session. This stops multiple machines publishing transaction for one account.
Ah sorry I must have miss read it I sometime read to fast.
Now I get what your saying that makes sense but then things like steemvoter or steemian how would they work voting for you if you are also active?
You couldn't without multiple session keys. There is reason to have them in multiple clients and machines you have open at once. But it is part of the vote automation problem. People are doing this to chase a thin sliver of curation rewards. Whales have more interest in this because it contributes to their steem power. I think overall people are fighting over really a small pool and if you could get some extra interest but not have to vote it would make it a lot less contentious. Whales would vote less and minnows effect would be increased.
Do you think that adding more active users could also help with this as well?
I think it is the other way around. Currently whales dictate success on rewards. If whales could get some guaranteed proportion of what might have been curation rewards also the remainder would increase the pool and minnow votes would give bigger rewards.
Realistically, humans will never be able to compete with bots. That is why you need to use the trails. Without the bots you would be able to vote a lot more naturally and gain more curation rewards (if bigger fish were less active than you)
So your saying that using the voting trails you will get more curation rewards, unless the bigger fish stopped being active then individually you should do ok then? I agree with the trails as a newbie since they have voted on my posts at times and helped me that way.
No. What I'm saying is using the voting trail is just to compete with the bots. If the bots/autovoting weren't working, you wouldn't need the voting trail to compete because you would be rewarded for being more active. You could even gain greater rewards than users who have more SP than you simply because they don't spend the time online curating - and no longer have a bot to do it for them. Also, if large stake holders were to stop voting (which they wouldn't but some dolphins/orca's might) that would make your vote and your friends votes more powerful.
Ah that makes sense. Thank you for the explanation.