No individual in any country in the world has the legal right to veto a gift from one person to another. (Unless of course they are a dictatorship or a cabal). Even if a third party loan was established to grant that gift. If I want to gift or reward somone using the Steem Power I PAID FOR who should have the right to interfere with that?
You don't own any funds until they reach your wallet, No balance is final until paid out. So how could that be theft, our model is based off your stake saying how the pool works. Don't like it buy more stake.
Ok, so I try to give a gift to a friend but it takes 7 days in the mail. You're trying to tell me that because my gift hasn't arrived yet it's not actually mine or theirs and you're allowed to intercept my gift and return it to the store? Either way you're still an asshole.
@artopium, you made a good point. It seems that upvoting is probably based at least partly or possibly completely by SP. Like you said already, SP can be bought and it can be earned. So, sadly, some people may not get that. I should probably write articles and make videos about those things.
Gifting
Because you are right that upvoting is gifting. You are giving somebody something via an upvote. You do own that in a sense or you should. Yes, some people will probably say you don't.
Interfering
But we have problems with that when it comes to money that people can wire into their Steemit Wallet. Also, you earn money when people upvote your posts.
Bitcoin v Steem
Technically, one might argue by saying that Steem is like Bitcoin, that it stays on the blockchain as a cryptocurrency. But regardless, when you get Bitcoin, how would you like it if people interfered with a Bitcoin transfer from one point to another. When we try to compare Bitcoin to Steem, and never mind their differences, we can see that Steem could function similar to Bitcoin regardless of the differences on the principles of cryptography to how it all works in theory or even in practicality meaning that flagging should not be a feature at all. Instead, there should be likes and dislikes and a view count for posts that are separate from the upvotes.
Punished
You should not be punished for disliking. You should not be allowed to punish other people by disliking or downvoting or flagging. I would rather have a social network that allows for upvoting and no downvoting. I'm ok with dislikes but not flagging or downvotes. Another problem might be in the shared Steem pool system and there should be one pool per person as opposed to only one pool for everybody.
Disclaimer
Some of what I'm saying here may not be the best idea and may not work. That's my disclaimer. But this is how I feel. This is what I prefer and it is what I would seek after.
I don't agree that upvoting someone is a "gift". Upvoting someone is stating that the content, in your opinion, is good. Just as you have the right to state this, the others have the right to state the opposite. Ideally if the content really is good, the creator will be rewarded, not gifted, for contributing.
If you try to misuse the system for something else than it was meant to be used, you have no one but yourself to blame if the plan backfires.
Weighted Downvotes = Theft
No individual in any country in the world has the legal right to veto a gift from one person to another. (Unless of course they are a dictatorship or a cabal). Even if a third party loan was established to grant that gift. If I want to gift or reward somone using the Steem Power I PAID FOR who should have the right to interfere with that?
You don't own any funds until they reach your wallet, No balance is final until paid out. So how could that be theft, our model is based off your stake saying how the pool works. Don't like it buy more stake.
You guys really live in your own bubble.
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Ok, so I try to give a gift to a friend but it takes 7 days in the mail. You're trying to tell me that because my gift hasn't arrived yet it's not actually mine or theirs and you're allowed to intercept my gift and return it to the store? Either way you're still an asshole.
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If you wanted to gift somebody, why not just send some liquid Steem or SBD so you don't have to worry about disagree of rewards?
Now that I think about it. I don't remember anything in the WP about using the reward pool to gift people 🤔
Maybe there is a more appropriate use.
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We're judges in a beauty contest. You say 9, I say 7.
Contestant gets 8.
Except the judge that has more money can give a score of 9 whereas the other judges can't. So... fail.
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If we all got the same vote just for showing up, where would our currency get its value?
Upvote Based From Bought & Earned SP
@artopium, you made a good point. It seems that upvoting is probably based at least partly or possibly completely by SP. Like you said already, SP can be bought and it can be earned. So, sadly, some people may not get that. I should probably write articles and make videos about those things.
Gifting
Because you are right that upvoting is gifting. You are giving somebody something via an upvote. You do own that in a sense or you should. Yes, some people will probably say you don't.
Interfering
But we have problems with that when it comes to money that people can wire into their Steemit Wallet. Also, you earn money when people upvote your posts.
Bitcoin v Steem
Technically, one might argue by saying that Steem is like Bitcoin, that it stays on the blockchain as a cryptocurrency. But regardless, when you get Bitcoin, how would you like it if people interfered with a Bitcoin transfer from one point to another. When we try to compare Bitcoin to Steem, and never mind their differences, we can see that Steem could function similar to Bitcoin regardless of the differences on the principles of cryptography to how it all works in theory or even in practicality meaning that flagging should not be a feature at all. Instead, there should be likes and dislikes and a view count for posts that are separate from the upvotes.
Punished
You should not be punished for disliking. You should not be allowed to punish other people by disliking or downvoting or flagging. I would rather have a social network that allows for upvoting and no downvoting. I'm ok with dislikes but not flagging or downvotes. Another problem might be in the shared Steem pool system and there should be one pool per person as opposed to only one pool for everybody.
Disclaimer
Some of what I'm saying here may not be the best idea and may not work. That's my disclaimer. But this is how I feel. This is what I prefer and it is what I would seek after.
I don't agree that upvoting someone is a "gift". Upvoting someone is stating that the content, in your opinion, is good. Just as you have the right to state this, the others have the right to state the opposite. Ideally if the content really is good, the creator will be rewarded, not gifted, for contributing.
If you try to misuse the system for something else than it was meant to be used, you have no one but yourself to blame if the plan backfires.