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RE: Voting Abuse and Ineffective Curation: A proposal for blockchain-level change

in #steem7 years ago (edited)

if we agree that curation on Steem isn’t currently working well, it seems that one obvious potential solution is to reward curators better for curating better while at the same time reducing the incentive for authors to self-vote bad posts.

Well my esteemed @blocktrades, in my not so humble opinion, I say: curation on Steem isn’t currently working well, simply, because no one here READ a flying thing beyond the headline of the posts. Especially, if what they primarily are hunting for is Profits from Curation Rewards. Yeah! that's the flip side of the coin when what prevails here is the "Money Talks" slogan.

That slogan only encourages the blind and illiterate ¿Curation? of those who claim not to have time to create content and they also flaunt large & deep pockets exclusively.

but then we would be left with the same problem it was meant to prevent: immediate voting on new posts by bots.

I've written about this problem many times before. And from my perspective, the eventual solution could even be much much simpler than it may be seem at first glance. In my view, there is no need whatsoever to replace the 30 minute period with a 5 minute period. Or for that matter, not even establish any waiting period at all to vote a post. Nor restore 50/50 rewards nor anything like that.

In my not so humble opinion, all that is needed for the platform to flourish and survive, is to have more people who actually READ. That they are forced, reinforced and obliged to READ before they are able or can take any other further action.

For example, it would be enough to establish that there was no way possible or procedure available for someone to vote a post. Unless they first click on the title of the post, wait until the post to unfold completely in their browsers and only after that, have they read the post or not, only after that, that's when the damn vote button will appear at the bottom on the post. I mean, that there is no voting button available anywhere outside of the body within the post. In this way, at least a large part of the problems would disappear. Like the meaningless votes casted by blind Trails, Guilds, Bots and all those nefarious species of AI automatisms from outside.

¿Do you wanna make money? ¡YOU HAVE TO READ! ¿Do you wanna Curation rewards? ¡YOU MUST READ! ¿Do you wanna make any sort of rewards? ¡YOU MUST MANUALLY AND HUMANLY ACT ACCORDINGLY!

¿Steemit is not about a social network? With Living Human Beings participating within it? Then, ¡You Have To Read!

I have no doubt, that only then would we see a similar figure between the Amount of Views vs the Amount of Votes.

"We need to stimulate Organic Human Interaction and systematically disfavors Automated Behaviours"

This, obviously, still does not solve the problem of the self-votes applied to their own shitposts of those in jerk circles with High SP and Deep Pockets. But in any case, if applying what I mentioned before, it will always be easier to identify those who do so and flag/downvote the crap out of them If necessary. At least, there will be fewer problems to solve and from somewhere we'll have to start to alleviate this ill-fated illiterate illness... }:)

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If Steemit were to adopt this mechanism, then all the other interfaces, like ChainBB, Busy, etc., would no longer have access to the blockchain, unless they also conformed to the exact protocol.

Bots, like platforms, interface with the blockchain directly, rather than through the platform.

However, @leotrap suggested a key system, whereby, much as you suggest, you obtain a key that allows you to vote on a post, and without solving a captcha, you cannot get the key.

AFAIK, this would solve the problem.

All platforms, including SMT's, would have to implement this protocol for it to work.

Whaddya think?

unless they also conformed to the exact protocol.

Yup mate. I reckon implement my proposal would means some annoyance modifying the code a bit and arranging a few adjustments here and there on some of the other external interfaces like ChainBB, Busy, etc. by their respective Devs. Even, accept some collateral damage on those who refuse to act quick and help with this important issue.

But that's exactly the whole thang here mate. All external platforms associated with the Steem Blockchain would have to collaborate adopting the precise and appropriate rules that help fight and solve the big problem of these pernicious blind and illiterate alien automatisms asap.

However, @leotrap suggested a key system, whereby, much as you suggest, you obtain a key that allows you to vote on a post, and without solving a captcha, you cannot get the key.

Oh! that's fine. I've also suggested a few possible and similar key systems before to try at least combat blind AI and relieve a bit the uneasiness. ¿Would you care to direct me toward that post of @leotrap where he suggested his solution? :)

@leotrap made the comment here on this post, in conversation with @timcliff, and I jumped in too.

@timcliff said he ran it by @netuoso, who said captchas won't work, and sux0rz. I may be paraphrasing a bit..

Oh! ok thank you for the tip mate. I guess I'll pinpoint that conversation later to see if I can throw my two cents in there too. Because now, I'm kind of fried already with some sleep deprivation. LoL

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