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RE: HF20 Update: Operations Stable

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

Even the most popular accounts on Youtube would find it nearly impossible to trend twice in one day. Some of them are multimillionaire recording artists known all over the planet.

I've suggested this before: Steemit should be limiting trending slots to ONE per account. That same publisher can still consistently trend, but only their most popular post at the time should appear on the trending list. Everyone can still work towards maintaining their spot, trying to one up themselves with each publication, but a limit to one per account would open up far more slots for everyone else to have a chance at. This doesn't hurt anyone. Having more of a variety on that page would encourage more eyes to focus on it.

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The aggressive manipulators, including the one being highlighted here, would certainly use multiple accounts to fill up the trending page that way. You would get the illusion of diversity, but no real substance.

In truth, I don't see anything all that bad about limiting trending slots to one per account, because as you say (and I agree) it should almost never happen organically. However, I have little to no belief it would make a substantive difference.

Creating the illusion of popularity is easy to see through.

The creation of a new section: Peoples Choice

When accounts voting match a certain criteria, the post moves up the ladder. Minority accounts like those with the highest SP can vote, but their vote wouldn't count towards positioning, only rewards. Small accounts virtually inactive aside from upvoting wouldn't count towards positioning. Paid for votes wouldn't count towards positioning. Only proven curators showing human behavior could contribute to positioning.

Remember the 'active' tab? That would be a nice feature to have back as well. I don't think I'm the only one here who can have over 100 legitimate comments under posts and still go virtually unnoticed.

Minority accounts like those with the highest SP can vote, but their vote wouldn't count towards positioning, only rewards. Small accounts virtually inactive aside from upvoting wouldn't count towards positioning. Paid for votes wouldn't count towards positioning. Only proven curators showing human behavior could contribute to positioning

Sounds good in theory but probably not one of those things can be reliably detected by an algorithm without people figuring out how to spoof it.

Remember the 'active' tab?

Yes it got removed because it was so obviously manipulated.

I could counter that, break things down and offer more solutions; since I can't build them, I guess it's all talk, no action.

You have yourself a good day, @smooth.

Good idea!

Let me add, per account per tag, on trending. I'd like to see the top posts from different tags. Sometimes, the top ten posts may be using the #Steemit tag for example or something else. It might be better to see different tags, under the all trending page and like you said, one account per trending post in the specific trending pages. Beyond that, I'd love to see trending comments as well. Maybe even trending links, photos, videos, avatars, quotes, replies, memes, GIFs, etc, as well.

You can already view trending posts like that. Simply select the trending tab, then select a tag on the left. You can also click the tags at the bottom of any post and that will lead you to the trending posts of that tag. You can do this with the Hot and New sections as well.

My idea goes beyond that.

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