I applaud your position here @meno, to try and understand the flag wars and be proactive enough to suggest a round table of sorts. I also agree that anyone being pushed to change will probably never change; it's a matter of saving face perhaps. I too do not know the answer here, and have chosen to not be vocal about the whole thing, except in supporting @friendsofgondor, a healing account for those SOG's who were once "supported" by fulltimegeek. Yes, I know he still supports them, but I'm sure you understand what I'm saying here. I'm also glad to see that haejin helped someone in need; no one is all bad, that I do know. I also know that fulltimegeek is an amazing supporter of all things good here, but as you said, certainly not perfect. No one is, right? And that's probably your answer right there I think :)