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RE: The recent controversy between Steemit Inc and the community - the premine, control, and where it leads this blockchain

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

I'd encourage everyone to read the above chat log. Put it in the context of:

If a fork were created, either on a new chain or on the live network, what accounts would make the chain vulnerable to control by Steemit Inc.

The above was part of discussions.

As far as I'm concerned, all of these conversations should be public. I'd encourage you to share all the logs that you were a part of, I'd love for the community to see how you act in private. Especially the part about "extortion" and your other rhetoric.

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all of these conversations should be public.

These are leaked from a Slack I am excluded from.

If a fork were created on the live network, what accounts would we freeze?

Here's a congruent context ^

There's no getting around this basic tenet of what's transpired.

"These are leaked from a Slack I am excluded from."

You excluded yourself from everything by not speaking for a month and a half you fucking chump.

I hope they get rid of you bud... Seriously.

There were invite links sitting all over the slack you're part of. You didn't join it because you didn't click the link, you weren't excluded as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you didn't see them though because you left nearly every channel in your own Slack and stopped engaging.

Edit - maybe those links were deleted by the time you returned to slack, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong here.

Also just to reply to myself to add more context:

This "slack Ned was excluded from" was free for anyone to join for the longest period of time. Only after the point where Ned went on the offensive, were links removed and Steemit Inc employees not allowed access.

Fun fact: the entire reason the slack was created was because we (witnesses) needed a place we could talk with one of the top 20 witnesses. The reason we couldn't talk to him in the Steemit Inc paid-for slack was because Ned banned him for talking about another project he worked on, provided no explanation, and then days (weeks?) later he restored his access. As witnesses we needed a place, for emergencies, that we were all available and could communicate. So we created a new (free) slack community.

The fun fact is correct. However, the ban of the top 20 witness was not clearly "for talking about another project". In fact it was abrupt and done without any explanation at all (as far as I know, to this day there still has not been one).

It put the Steem blockchain at risk (granted small risk in practice since it was only one witness) because of the inability of an elected top 20 witness to communicate with the developer team in the event of chain emergencies (malfunction, critical vulnerability, etc.) which has happened before and required coordination between these parties to address.

I believe my assumption as to the reason was based on a statement (likely speculation) made by the individual who was banned.

Though you're absolutely right, we have no idea why. Thanks for the correction.

who was banned and on which project was he working?
also why did never a new community driven chain start? as you've stated it was not ment to be an on-chain solution..

and now steem is not interesting anymore..?

You need to save steem, you need the users and unfortunately reassurance is part of that and you have only started to realise how important that is because people have started to panic and think removing you/steemit is the answer. Time to speak up.

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Thanks for the context. It does appear, on the surface, as "scheming" when read in a bubble.

It's Ned trying to twist the narrative from what it actually was. That's this entire situation in a nut shell.

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