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RE: Can we have downvotes and at the same time prevent 'flag wars'?

in #steem4 years ago

Free flags are like free ammo, you can't really expect something good from it.

How do you want to prevent single users like @haejin and many others to extract hundreds of dollars (per person) every day?
I don't consider this, plagiarism and spam as minor problems.
It's so discouraging for newbies to observe these kinds of behaviour. Some told me that they don't like to take part in a community where pure greed gets rewarded ...
I think there has to be any solution, and if no flags then anything else.
Of course I respect your different point of view but cannot agree here.

It's impossible and no entity will have enough resources or manpower to constantly scan the whole chain to detected abuse.

Algorithms will do. They seek and preselect suspicious activities, so that humans only have to check whether these cases suggested by software are worth to investigate further or not. In addition users can always report abuse manually.
Anyway, there is still a long way to go until mass adoption, and I think it's worth solving problems now which in the worst case could prevent to reach mass adoption at all ...

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Don't count selfvoting for reward pool will solve this issue.
If you than also add the rule that all accounts who are created with ressource credits from another account (what you can analyse at the blockchain also for the past) count for reward pool to the account who created them you will also have solved the issue with multiple accounts.

First of all there are (many) other ways to create multiple accounts than using one's main account. I could for example ask you to create "jaki02" for me and I create "wer-verliert" for you. I can also create accounts via different front ends using different e-mail addresses and phone numbers.

Furthermore your suggestion would punish honest users who create new accounts for friends using their own resource credits, because then they couldn't support these friends anymore.

Your idea also doesn't prevent schemes in which for example every day whale A upvotes ten mini posts of whale B, who rewards ten mini posts of whale C, who upvotes ten mini posts of whale A.

"Furthermore your suggestion would punish honest users who create new accounts for friends using their own resource credits, because then they couldn't support these friends anymore."

Ok this is a very good point, to be honest I was not aware of this point.

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