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RE: OPEN LETTER TO @WHALES: please be mindfull with your MASS-DOWNVOTES before it's to late

in #steem5 years ago (edited)

No one wants to be called an idiot for the ways of seeing things, and reading through some of the comments, there are lots of great opinions and reflections of what we all understand if you are not around for less than a year, but there is also bad people and crazy people, and different situations people encounter themselves in. It's a difficult topic because easily gets mixed with other things that usually drive the objective of the conversation towards everywhere, except the one we need to talk about.

Either way, I just wanted to reply something to Piotr, about:

After all, what would you do if you would become downvoted till your reputation is close to zero and your publications are no longer visible to anyone .... would you still stick around?

Yes, I would. Because STEEM for me is not just the blockchain to post anymore, and I know that eventually those trying to achieve that feat will give up or change ideals or priorities... and if you are worth your reputation, it will go up again. Either way, by itself, reputation is another great topic to solve, which in my opinion should not be based on only on downvoting/upvoting, but also on the duration of those actions... it might feel idiot, but it's like asking to vote for a president (where everyone has 1 vote per day to cast) and on top of it, you need to pass anti-bot tech to make sure you are human.

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Dear @forykw

It's a difficult topic because easily gets mixed with other things that usually drive the objective of the conversation towards everywhere, except the one we need to talk about.

Wise words indeed.

Because STEEM for me is not just the blockchain to post anymore, and I know that eventually those trying to achieve that feat will give up or change ideals or priorities...
if you are worth your reputation, it will go up again.

You say that you wouldn't be discouraged. the point is that many others will. And we should ask ourselfs a question: can this platform afford to lose even more confused users?

If your reputation will go down so badly, then thumbnails and your publications are not even being displayed (correct me if I'm wrong). To build reputation back - it may be a real challenge. For new users it may not be ever possible to achieve.

I can even give another example: ulqu3 - he has been away from steemit for a longer while. Came back, posted something and used bidbots to boost his post to trending page. He got number of heavy downvotes, but noone bothered to tell him what did he do wrong. Not even one warning or explanation.

I already know several similar examples and it's not hard to imagine and understand, that many of those users will quit steemit. And that worries me.

Enjoy your weekend buddy,
Cheers, Piotr

I know I am probably making the sound of too neutral here... but I love technology... and even if I consider STEEM blockchain a long term investment (especially of my time) I don't want to see profits necessarily in 1 year or try to live with it. Therefore the picture changes...

If your reputation will go down so badly, then thumbnails and your publications are not even being displayed (correct me if I'm wrong).

This is only a reaction of the UI... all the data is on the blockchain and anyone can see it. If tomorrow I develop an UI that never hides content based on reputation, there is nothing preventing me to do so. Yes, this will not be the case for all users, but then expect that someone will try to, one day make the... "unregulated UI"... where you can see ALWAYS everything... and then either take your "selective decisions" by deliberately choosing who to hide, or using a "configurable preference", make those decisions automatic.

Either way... it's not a concern to me.

He got number of heavy downvotes, but noone bothered to tell him what did he do wrong. Not even one warning or explanation.

Yes, this I am against. Unless he already somehow showed that he knew... if so, people will not forgive. But yes, in general I am against of that attitude. I like to first explain, warn, give a chance to redeem once... and then if you continue, KILL hard.

I already know several similar examples and it's not hard to imagine and understand, that many of those users will quit steemit. And that worries me.

For the users that are great ones, yes that is a worry and pity thing if they do. Unfortunately, this might only change with experience and more exposure of "stability". STEEM is still a very young technology, even if with 3 years. Early adopters are the ones that can change the future of this.

I think that we need to wait for Huge Business to start screwing up on blockchain VERY hard... Then, the value of things like STEEM, raises from ashes... because at that stage, companies competing for this technology can't possibly beat the experience of years. Then, those companies will start "investing" on these open source ventures, trying to capitalize on them, and if possible, privatize them (if that could possibly happen). Some will try to Buy people...

... I am playing that long term.

Dear @forykw

This is only a reaction of the UI... all the data is on the blockchain and anyone can see it.

Good one :) Please define "anyone". Reality is that even right now users will struggle with lack of visibility. The fact that UI is not displaying post will make it only harder.

So technically anyone can see it, but in reality pretty much noone will.

Not to mention that "anyone" would have to be narrowed down to less than 0,01% population of the world :) Maybe one person per each thousands Steemit users will know how to access any data on blockchain, which isn't being displayed on front-end. I surely don't.

I think that we need to wait for Huge Business to start screwing up on blockchain VERY hard... Then, the value of things like STEEM, raises from ashes... because at that stage, companies competing for this technology can't possibly beat the experience of years. Then, those companies will start "investing" on these open source ventures

Let's pray for that.

Hope you're gonna have an easy monday :)
Yours, Piotr

It's Tuesday already =)

and... yes anyone can, but not everyone wishes to spend enough time to understand how to. Values of time and knowledge between who wishes visibility and who wishes to understand it, changes within each Steemian. Blockchain is not yet here to serve... but to be explored, evolved and experimented.

In my view, who takes most advantage of it, will probably be the ones that keep involved in it. Making profit or not.

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