A reversed conversion to peg the SBD to $1 is a bad idea.

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

Yesterday I talked about why the conversion of SBD to $1 worth of STEEM is not a threat when STEEM is at a low price.

There is a mechanism in the blockchain that prevents the market from being flooded with new STEEM through conversion.

When the market cap of SBD reaches >10% of the market cap of STEEM you will get less STEEM when you convert your SBD's to STEEM. (It basically breaks the peg on the underside until balance is restored)

(I don't think this happened before).

There is currently talk of pegging the price of SBD to $1 permanently by allowing a reversed conversion.

After reading the white paper again I have to conclude it's a bad idea but I love more input.


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Today it's only possible to convert SBD to STEEM.

A reversed conversion would make STEEM to SBD possible.

Example:


STEEM = $10
SBD = $1

Conversion takes place over 3,5 days. I'm assuming prices are stable in this example.


10 SBD (= 10x $1 worth of STEEM) ----> 1 STEEM

or

1 STEEM ----> 10 SBD (= 10x $1 worth of STEEM)


This would make an SBD always worth around one dollar.

Why?


When SBD is < $1 people would buy SBD (increasing the price) and convert it $1 worth of STEEM.

When SBD is > $1 people would convert STEEM to SBD and sell the SBD (decreasing the price).

Seems like a good idea if it wasn't for the white paper.

In the white paper there is a explicit reason why this is a bad idea:


If people could freely convert in both directions, then traders could take advantage of the blockchains conversion rates by trading large volumes without changing the price. Traders who see a massive run-up in price would convert to SBD at the high price (when it is most risky) and then convert back after the correction. The Steem protocol protects the community from this kind of abuse by only allowing people to convert from SBD to STEEM and not the other way around. The blockchain decides how and when to create SBD and who should get it. This keeps the rate of SBD
creation stable and removes most avenues of abuse.


I have to agree with this.

The changes of Market manipulation are too risky.

The risk of the blockchain being flooded with SBD's when STEEM is worth a lot through conversion is too high.

Let's take the latest run up of STEEM to $7.

If a two way conversion would have been possible back then 1 STEEM could have been converted to 7 SBD.

When kept those 7 SBD would now have to be backed by around 6 STEEM.

That's a lot of extra STEEM.

But I don't know if this would be even be possible.

The market cap of SBD will grow so fast and the protection I talked about yesterday will kick in most likely breaking the peg on the underside for a very long time.

My conclusion for now:


I much rather have an SBD that's always worth a dollar or more then an SBD that is worth something unknown completely.

What is an SBD worth when you can't convert it anymore for $1 worth of STEEM?

Like it said in the white paper:


The primary concern of Steem feed producers is to maintain a stable one-to-one conversion between SBD and the US dollar (USD). In a market where debt still demands a premium, it is safe to say the market is willing to extend more credit than the debt the community is willing to take on. If this happens a SBD will be valued at more than $1.00 and there is little the community can do

and

It is our belief that these rules will give market participants confidence that they are unlikely lose money by holding SBD purchased at a price of $1.00.


Please share your thoughts and ideas.



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People are free to exchange their SBD and steem anyhow they like on 3rd party markets. But if this were to be implemented within the blockchain itself where the source of token printing originates, It will create problems exactly described in the whitepaper.

The only price that matters is the STEEM token. period. SBD is essntially a smart contract that reacts to the market through a witness maintained feed price.

It doesnt matter that SBD is worth more than $1 in the outside market. That just means that the value of SBD is manipulated by traders who don't understand what it is. SBD will always worth $1 in the blockchain and that is the end of it.

trying to tinker too much on the conversion might spoil everything.

I like your explanation on this and sounds correct. So in theory we don't really want SBD listed on the exchanges just Steem.

In theory SBD should be listed as a pegged token just like USDT. No point trading SBD when it will always worth $1 of Steem. But since it's a liquid token, traders will always want to make use of volatility.

This is pretty plain and straightforward explanation Sir. Thanks to you.Its easier for us to understand especially to us that are new to this platform.

If we could convert freely in both directions, I'd write a bot that would watch the prices and automatically flip back and forth. It would be like forex on steroids.

The whales have the power to "influence" the price, making this more lucrative ... but then ... the market would lose faith in the currency ... and everyone would lose.

I have to agree, I don't think it would be a great idea to do that. I think it would add an extra level of volatility to the market that doesn't need to be there. Things are already pretty crazy right now. While I do believe that any tech should be able to somewhat evolve and adapt, there are more far reaching impacts to take into account. Some that we probably haven't even thought about yet...

So much of this token stuff can simply make ones head spin! Though i imagine you've made it as easy to follow as possible as you have a knack at doing that! Yesterday, i was imagining what kind of character i would be if I were a steem monsters card! Haha, that was fun! Have a great day!

That seems to make the most sense. Many have their complaints, but it is working. Don't fix what ain't broken. :)

Being able to convert back and forth opens to door to shenanigans.

Thanks @exyle for all of your posts on the various "currencies" in our Steem Community. Very much appreciated!

Beyond the specifics of your post, I am still trying to get my mind around why any "crypto" asset anywhere would peg its value to USD. Or any other "fiat" currency for that matter.

In August last year, after a long time of research, I decided to begin investing in this new asset class. One of the attractive features of it was the attempt of very smart people the world over (through open source communities) to attempt to create something outside the reach of the State.

Here, we're talking about deliberate attempts to "pin the value" to currency produced by a State ... 😧

Well, I will keeping researching, reading posts like yours, etc. Perhaps at some point, I'll "get it" ...

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Buying SBD at $1 would be the best strategy, now it is going up again.

Hmm you can sell your sbd for another coin and buy steem

I agree, one way convert is the best way and changing it to 2 way will make it overly complicated and sketchy...

BTW Legit question, how in the world do you manage to put the same face in every photo of yourself lol.

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