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RE: The Sustainability of Steem - Is Freemium Broken?

in #steem6 years ago

There was the Promoted posts section too. Essentially people could burn STEEM to get a spot in the Promoted feed. Burning STEEM indirectly pays everybody because it's deflationary. But, Promoted is basically a useless feature - it's optional on the steemit.com UI and there's no direct incentive for the third party apps to use it.
BTW: I love what Steeve is aiming to do.

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Yeah, I know. But doesn't work because people don't read the Promoted section and there is no reason for the posts to be relevant..

Btw thanks for your kind words :)

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Yeah, how Steemit did it sucks totally. I think that the only way you can get anybody to see anything promoted is to mix it with the rest :-) I mean, who would be like, yeah, let's just go through all the promoted posts since I have nothing better to do!

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Which is exactly why people use paid voting services: trending has more traction.

A simple fix would be to make the homepage the promoted page, and then no more bullshitting that bots are for promotion.

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Not sure that would really save the day. I think that just putting something on the front page doesn't really mean that the front page makes sense or brings any value...

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Why does putting promoted where maximum exposure exists, in turn creating the incentive necessary to use promoted not make sense and subsequently why wouldn't it bring value you think?

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Because, well an example:
"Download my amazing app: It's Steem without the annoying promoted posts!"
There is no direct incentive for UI developers to make their app worse by including the promoted content. Work on this issue and you might have something.

Which issue is that? An app who excludes Promoted Content? There is a enormously GIANT difference between Promoted posts and posts promoted through bidbots, if an app excludes promoted posts it doesn't make it worse OR better, and the incentives for including Promoted content is that the content promoted sustainably isn't excluded by the app for no reason what so ever.

The point I made previously was that if steemit changed the homepage to the promoted page it will drive the demand to occupy the top spot on the promoted page. To me that seems elementary, which is why I wanted to know how and why that idea doesn't make sense and why or how it won't bring value, none of which is explained by your example or the issue of what other apps are doing.

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If an app excludes promoted posts it makes it better -> less paid spam.
WRT: changing the steem homepage to promoted posts.
Yes, it would make promoted posts more attractive, but it doesn't make steemit more attractive to users. If a new user coming first sees promoted posts and then has to click to get trending or their own feed then that's a turn off.

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