RE: Message to @ned (IMPORTANT)
I'm so disappointed with your level of comprehension, you either went in too deep to actually understand what is fair and what is unfair
Or you are just playing your role in this corrupt system...
Whatever is the case, I can assure you, Logic taking 2000 STEEM monthly from Steemcleaners damages reward pool way much more than the damage I applied with my worthless $1 self-votes while STEEM was above $4
They were working hard to post quality content? Great, who told them not to get themselves delegation and upvote it? No one. They could have done it, same like I did it and same like majority of community did it
Some whales back in the time even upvoted their comments with $100 worth of upvotes, why not go after them?
Oh I get it, cause this system is flawless and fair O:)
Yes, I understand that the SC crew gets paid for what they do but they do contain a lot of legit abuse althoy I wished they would
I do also concur that the system is corrupt... perhaps hopelessly so. This is why I often talking about forking the chain if all else fails in our fight against reward pool abuse.
My dream is to be part of a platform where honest hard-working people win. Maybe it's a pipe dream. Right now, this platform is dominated by people working to increase their own wallet at the expense of others.
You know everybody doing something doesn't make it right. Doesn't matter if it is comment farming or vote selling. There is always a conseqequence.
Low effort reward pool manipulators may get a leg up on the relative size of their wallet; however, they may not consider that what they are doing, when scaled, is devaluing that token in the long run.
As for the why don't we go after the whales argument that I have never heard before, assess our collective SP. We deal with what we can. You don't start the game at the final boss dude.
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Your steemflagrewards shitshow is one of the worst low quality spamming and reward pool abusing groups on this platform, and it's obvious to anyone who had been following this mess that the ego-centric immature control freaks who have access to the various steemcleaners accounts are drunk with power, deluded with cognitive dissonance, and doing much more harm than good for the blockchain. By attacking lower level content creators you steer even more rewards to the whale abusers and discourage everyone else. Ask yourself, is this a good look for the platform? Is this going to make people want to buy STEEM?
Interesting thoughts but one stood out in particular.
That's actually a good point but our vision is to grow to an order of magnitude whereby we will even be able to stifle that abuse.
Part of that vision is recruitment and for that good PR is necessary, of course. We have had some abuse fighters I think that have been counterproductive in that area.
How would you recommend the approach be altered? Glad to hear your feedback. I'm serious.
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Stop the "follow on flag for steemflagrewards" comments. These comments are spam, add nothing of value, and are the epitome of hypocrisy.
Communicate openly and transparently on the blockchain. Stop trying to force people into your private chatroom to resolve issues on the blockchain. We deserve to see how your group manages itself and interacts with the community. Warn users before you start flagging them and include explanations for downvoting criteria. Whatever your views on the reward pool, consider that most people will feel as though you are taking money from them, so approach with care and caution instead of abrasiveness and attrition. Consider that one wrongly placed downvote could turn someone away from the platform forever and yield negative publicity.
Stop blacklisting and blanket retributive flagging user accounts. The only downvoting should be done to individual posts or comments that meet specific criteria, not blacklisting an entire user account forever and de-platforming them.
Stop subjectively valuing posts. In my opinion downvoting should only be used against plagiarism or explicit spam, but if you are going to subjectively value posts, go after the actual reward pool abusers that make $10+ on shitposts instead of low level posters. Your strategy of trying to grow large before taking them on is counterproductive as you are steering more rewards to them. Taking on the largest abusers will give more power to the smaller accounts.
We are pretty close to this actually opting for a token system whereby users can use the vote on more valuable contributions. Not that I think follow on flags comments are nil value but I can understand where people are coming from.
The Discord is pretty open but if there was a way to way a more realtime dialogue on the blockchain would be nice. I don't think there is currently an app or dapp that provides such a thing at this time. Warnings do occur but they are rare. It's so easy to reward pool abuse and detection is spotty so that kind of changes the dynamic. That's why increasing the risk profile is ideal. Warnings do little if anything to deter a determined abuser. Loss of profitability does.
We currently do not have a blacklist mechanism. That would be @steemcleaners. We are considering one but not to be used lightly.
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The blockchain provides all that is needed for communication and most importantly is public, transparent, and accountable. If you are looking for a more robust interface try https://steemreply.com/. It's true that many of my complaints are directed towards accounts like mack-bot, spaminator, cheetah, and other steemcleaners affiliated accounts and they are not responsive to any communication on the blockchain. If they wanted to actually fight reward pool abuse it would be pretty easy to follow the largest bid bot traffic to many posts that are the same low quality that you tag with "bid bot abuse." Their lack of action towards this end leads me to believe they are the ones benefiting the most from this activity either through multiaccounting or selling votes, and the amount of STEEM this group is taking from the reward pool directly is alarming.
https://steemit.com/newslink/@isacoin/newslink-let-s-talk-about-spam-and-bots-repost-of-pjheinz-who-was-run-off-the-platform-for-speaking-against-copy-past-farming-by