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RE: 32000 steem - why I just increased the ante

in #steem5 years ago

I certainly agree with you about self voting.. if you don't support yourself then why should other people. However I think it's rude to UV your post as soon as you write it. You are potentially losing curation...or a big UV from someone else who is curating... I personally like to wait until the post is 3 or 4 days old before I UV it.. that way I'm not stepping on anyone's toes..

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yes.. I agree.. I used to do this the last this month.. but then you encounter two problems:
1.) the upvote shall promote your post.. so it should be done asap
2.) upvote bots just jump in after 15 minutes...
and as far as I understand the mechanism the self vote would harm other voters most if I do the vote after 15 minutes.. if I do it adhoc I assume the other voters will be better off?

When you vote in the first 5 minutes everything you could have made in curation gets burnt.. so your .75.. you get about .50 in rewards.. the other .25 is wasted.. if you really want to get the most rewards UV at 14 minutes. But some of the UV bots vote after 13 minutes. I use delegation bots myself now a days if you look there are some really good one.. check out @steemcryptosicko he's got great ROI..

OK... thx a lot.. so burnt means it gets back to the pool.. neither the curators nor the authors get the curation? only the author gets the author portion?

so lets assume my upvote is 100 units...
usually splitt would be 75 author / 25 curation
you say now if I vote within the first 5 minutes the 75 author is still there, but curation would be 0???

Dear @davedickeyyall

you get about .50 in rewards.. the other .25 is wasted.

I wasn't aware of that. Thx for sharing.

Yours
Piotr

You still don't have nearly enough stake to screw other upvoters out of curation rewards. You seriously have to have like like a $5-$20 upvote to do that.

hmm.. let me check my piggy bank.. ;-)

so is dave right or not?

Manipulating curation won't be something you have to worry about unless you x10 your stake. People who vote after you will get like 24.8% curation instead of 25%.

Not necessarily screwing them over.. but not getting curation and not letting the curators split up that other .25

so a good compromise could be to wait 30 minutes before I do the UV?

thx a lot to both of you

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