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RE: Why Down Votes and Flags are an Unavoidable consequence of Game Theory

in #steem8 years ago

I think the community can handle abusive downvoting whales. When the dark side appears (and the community agrees this is a problem), light side of the force will appear soon, for instance offsetting whale bots by auto-upvoting.

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The Force is strong with the light side... ;)

yes but the problem is - there can be a whale downvoting others who never posts.

then u cant hurt him and he gets more and more SP from his stake. and you will loose resources and reward stake pool to ie upvoe what he downvotes and this wont move anywhere

Downvoting does not give him more SP from his stake. It actually takes away potential to earn by using up valuable and scarce voting power.

Ah gotcha but if the reason to make downvote button is to fight "upvoting guilds" wont we double enemies by creating opportunity of making "downvoting guilds" ?

I mean now if you dont vote on somebody - its same as you flagged him - you dont pass him money just the person does not know if you read it and think its bad or you didnt. Lets a person feel good then.

If person came and got flagged all the time because ie posts about things others dont like - wouldnt it be not fair?

I do not know i just like positive energy here and i think downvoting could go more rogue than just fixing the issue that we have now.

Also FB was thinking of making "unlike button" but never did - because it would make users upset in the end who get unlikes from others.

There does not exist the same incentives to abusively downvote as to upvote. It can in some cases be a problem but I think the concern is largely overblown. SP and voting power are valuable scarce resources that can be used to earn money. People who use their votes for malicious downvoting are incurring a cost to themselves (opportunity cost). That isn't enough to ensure it never happens, but perhaps it is just something that will be rare in practice can be considered an acceptable cost (not saying this is necessarily true, but it could be).

I do think there is a bigger problem with this whole idea, which is "good downvoting" being an undersupplied public good. In all likelyhood as the system matures and becomes more competitive we will see very little downvoting, even in cases where it is actually needed.

Gotcha, bright thinking. Gave you my last witness vote that was left :)

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Thanks for the witness vote, but please vote for me as a witness only if you think I'm doing good job as a witness. I do my best.

you dont miss blocks and u want good for the platform so its all good!

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