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RE: Principles and Predictions

in #statism8 years ago

A drunk driver does not pose an immediate threat to you unless they are headed toward you with their car. Stopping them would only be self-defence​ if they were about to hit you.

Again, you're claiming you can only use self-defense when it's already too late (e.g. a car's careening towards you.) This is analogous to having someone point a gun at your head, but you don't do anything defend yourself until after he's pulled the trigger. After all if he's just pointing a gun at you and then doesn't pull the trigger no harm was done.

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Not the same thing. If someone points a gun at you, they are threatening your life directly. Someone driving drunk two streets over does not pose an immediate threat to your life.

Am I allowed to protect anyone else in your world? For instance if I see someone pointing a gun at the back of someone else's head?

ran out of replies so i'll reply to this one. I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Am I allowed to protect anyone else in your world? For instance if I see someone pointing a gun at the back of someone else's head?
Of course you are. And, you should try and stop someone that is driving drunk. But you don't have the right to imprison or fine them for doing so. How can you give that right to a cop?

Why don't I have the right to imprison someone who's about to shoot another person in the head? What do I have the right to do? Kill them to prevent a murder? Beat them up? Shout a useless warning?

Furthermore, why are you deciding what rights I have in terms of defending myself or others in the first place?

@telos , I already said drunk driving is not the same as pointing a gun at someone's head. I said you don't have the right to imprison someone for drunk driving. If you think you do, go "arrest" a drunk driver yourself and lock him up in your basement. See how far that gets you.

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