Exactly. I agree with most of @larkenrose’s assertions but it is important to remember that ’right’ and ’wrong’ are both human constructs. Taking clear cut positions on issues of incredible complexity often means that you are not considering all variables. Is government bad? Is government good? I think the true answer is both.

Thanks @larkenrose for pushing your agenda as the world is much better when people speak their minds; however, I must ask if this is the tone you take when debating statists? If so I would consider adjusting your tactics as it may come across as condescending, thus any debate is likely to be a pointless endeavor.