RE: Star Wars overview VIII: The Last Jedi
Because Kylo "went Dark" right after that incident with Luke. Luke was also his family, but he tried to kill him. These are facts, which can not be denied by anyone. That is why, Luke is responsible for him. Making mistakes is thematic in the movies. I don't see how overreacting for seconds and then questioning oneself if out-of-character. Did he perfectly control his emotios in original trilogy? Also, idea of it was, that people knew Luke as a legend and not as a real person. Rey saw that, but in others eyes, he still was the one, who can't be scratched even by First Order's army. It was clear, that he would not have killed Kylo.
Kylo was distracted by Rey. Snoke, when Leia escaped, was also with Rey and then he died. How would they detect them? Also, sequel is important too, to judge if anything was filler here.
It is not confirmed, but heavily implied, that she gained skills through connection with Kylo. They balance each other. Also, Rey uses Kylo's style, Like: She cried. She did to Kylo, what he did to Finn (difference is, that it was Finn's back that got slashed). She also swings sword when she is not near to the enemy, similar to Kylo.
In addition, Kylo was angered by "a girl" without any reason given to us, which implies connection.
Before Rey concentrated on the Force, she was worse than Finn with the sword. In novel (which is more detailed version of movie), she even heard the voice of Snoke. Connection is still there, even after Snoke's death. They also were on same level, as was seen in the scene of throne.
But Kylo has not achieved anything. And making mistakes was a theme in that movie, so it could be his mistake. We can see his tears in the final scene, when he was standing in the darkness, but there still were rays (Ray and Rey is very similar) of light there. That was symbolism, as we can also see in TFA, when light disappears and next, what we see, is Kylo killing his father. On the "Light Side" old ones are dying, yeah, but ideas are still same.
Sure, but every evil thing died, so what is the difference. Ring was magical and fixed the greatest problem. How is resurrection not magic?
But I am only talking about TLJ. I don't even like Star Wars as a whole and agree, that magic is horrible there. And so far, First Order is still there and characters still died. They suffered more. I just hope, that sequel will improve things, instead of ruining everything.
Yes, Kylo went to the dark after Luke confronted him. But why did Luke confront him?
Resurrection is religion, not magic. The Ring didn't solve the problems, destroying the Ring did. The Ring created problems.
Out of sheer fear, that history will be repeated and everyone will suffer. That was for seconds and then he realised what he was doing (And what Snob said. That is only logical conclusion, really). As he said, he also was ashamed exactly at that moment. Sound of lightsaber was enough to woke Kylo, tho.
But he was resurrected and that is not something you can do without some supernatural stuff. That affected plot. Leia's survival, for instance, didn't affect anything. Also, is not the Force a religion for Jedis?
Destroying the MAGICAL Ring also destroyed evil things, because they were magicaly connected. The Ring's problems had not much of a pay-off. If that is the case, villains also use the Force in Star Wars, so it creates problems too. The Force makes special ones of both side. Volcano was also magical, iirc and they didn't throw the ring themselves in volcano, these mad men (They were not even trying to destroy the ring. They didn't make a choice) did it. My point is, that magic played way more important role here, than hobbits did. Like, they only walked and that resolved the world threatening problem.
Luke went to the ends of the earth to save the second most evil man in the galaxy. Showing that much doubt is out of character.
You should reread Lord of the Rings. Your understanding is a bit hazy. The Force is not just power. The Ring is raw power.
I am saying, that he just could not control his emotions for seconds. In original trilogy he almost killed his father, too.
I understand that. I was talking about the movie, tho. I watched it when I was a little kid. Will rewatch it soon.
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. The Lord of the Rings movies subtly change some parts from the books which alter the meaning slightly. The ending isn't quite the same in the books, though the movies did make it quite cinematic.
Luke showing dark side tendencies was one of the strong parts about Luke's character in Return of the Jedi, but Luke doubting himself isn't consistent with that. His dark side tendencies were of anger, not fear.
Oh, I want to read books more, but it is way more dry, as people say, so I am holding.
Sure and thats actually good point, but in both cases, emotions won over him, so he lost control for short amount of time. And cases were also different, bacause Vader was already on the dark side and they were fighting. So, I think, from here comes his doubts.
Could not find subtitles, but as I heard, he said, that he sensed dark side (Here he tried to kill Kylo - because it was so strong, that he thought Snoke already turned him evil), but then that Darkness faded (Here he was ashamed).