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RE: Going to the European Space Technology Research Centre - Pictures from the heart of Space in Europe!

in #space7 years ago

Except that I am not lying. I have been part of more satellite and cargo launches than I can count. Every time, I can watch the launch, see the trajectory and direction of the launcher, observe the speed of the launch vehicle and its geo-position, and observe how it connects to different ground stations around the world as it travels. You see, we have different ground stations scattered from close to the North pole at Svalbard, down to the south pole as well as all along the equator in order to have a continuous link with the launch vehicles during launch and the deployed satellites.

MAP_new KSAT global network_2017.png
These are just the ground stations operated by the Norwegian company KSAT

I can then see how the signal is received at one ground stations as the vehicle gets within a certain range of it, and how it then later disappears after it has passed by, only to reappear after it has travelled the distance equivalent to an orbit. You can even do the math once you know both the altitude of the vehicle, and the distance at which it received a link to a given ground station, to calculate the curvature.

This is undeniable proof of a round earth. How else could you fire a rocket in one direction and have it reappear over your head without it ever changing directions? How else would you explain why we need ground stations all around the world, and how they receive signals from a launched vehicle in the exact order, and at the exact times, you would predict based on assuming that the Earth is round and has a diameter and curvature that our models suggest? You can’t.

I can only suggest that you spend more time reading and educating yourself and less time watching conspiracy theories on YouTube.

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The curve is missing, where it should be visiable.

You can fly a rocket in a circle around the northpole and it would appear as you describe.

There are so many indications of greenscreen, hornests and buoyancy tanks in the nasa footage, that it is very easy to expose Nasa as fake.

You won't see curvature when you just look straight forward at the horizon. The only evidence of curvature in that footage is the fact that you can see further and further the higher you get. If you want to see curvature "to the sides", you'll need to look down at the Earth to get some form of angle.

A student team in Norway sent a balloon to the same altitude and took this footage
https://www.facebook.com/kogstarburst/videos/1496581273718019/
There you can clearly see the curve :)

But it doesn't matter. We already have plenty of images where you can see curvature. Like this one taken by SpaceX

SpaceX is a lie, everyone knows that. Elon musk is not a hero, he is a fraud!

I can see it just looking at him.

but look at all the footage from SpaceX and you will see that it is all CGI!

Anyway you strike me as a government agent and you didnt confirm if you have your full name here... you probably dont...

So I guess I am wasting my time here and you win on the short term..

As they say the truth always comes out in the end!

How do you determine if it is CGI?

WEll you look at the videos and if they look like hollywood triciry and you see no real photos, then it is probably CGI.

I have not looked much into SpaceX, since I never really was addicted to "space", but I have looked at enough videos and photos from NASA to know that SpaceX is a lie.

Anyway @fredrikaa now I need to go back to do actual productive things.

First of all, that's not a very clever way of determining if something is CGI, you are susceptible to your own human errors.

SpaceX have placed cameras at two places on their launch vehicles. One is attached to the main body of the Booster (First and lower stage of the rocket) pointing downwards, the second place is inside with the payload and the second stage engine.

Please tell me how any of this is faked.

They are launching rockets into the water, they never go to outer space. All videos "from space" are fake, just look at them!!!

It has been proven again and again... now I will soon not respond more to you, you are nothing but a government agent, promoting a lie.

I have a question for you, gravity. It pulls stuff together in a spherical manner, anything for e.g a flat earth would be immediately crushed into a sphere which we all know that it isn't except for you. So could you explain how it works on a flat earth?

All I know for sure is that earth is #notaglobe ,

The gravity part (gravity is supposedly a hoax) is explained in this video:

@fredrikaa are you kidding me??

That video the studen made is made 32 km over the earth and at that hight you are not suppose to see any curvature.

In the video the horizon is bouncing up and down, sin he is clearly using a fish eye lens.

Now what you write so easy to debunk, that I begin to think that you are fully aware of that the earth is not a globe and you are just preying on the fiat money system and your followers.

You do know that it is basically the same altitude as the video you linked above? Right?...

Yes, you are right, I did a mistake calculating the KM wrong to feet when I did that last comment. Yes there should be visible curvature at that hight, slightly.

But the video you link to does not even have a still camera, but instead a camera that is bouncing up and down.

@fredrikaa I am an older man then you and I have been though a lot of problems in my life, so yes I do mistakes and I am not as fast as when I was 20 years old.

None the less am I certain that earth is #notaglobe and I hope to wake you up one day.

I might take some of our arguments and make a video about it in the future, but for now, I will go back to working on SteemRide.

You can fly a rocket in a circle around the northpole and it would appear as you describe.

But I just told you that we launched it in just one direction and that we can observe with the sensors onboard that it goes in a straight line... When we send rockets into geosynchronous orbit, it travels along the equator and only to the west, never making any turns, and still comes back.

You also need to explain why it obtains a higher speed when you launch it to the west along the equator than if you launch it to the East. Which is why all launch pads for launches to that orbit are kept close to the equator (like KSC in Florida for American launches, or Guiana Space Centre in French Guiana for European Launches).

Well I cant explain that, since there are so many things we dont know about the earth, all I am convinced about is that it is not a globe.

You can't explain it because it 100% proves that the Earth is indeed a globe.

Please tell me why these ground stations can only communicate with flying objects when they are within a specific radius and why that radius increases the higher the object is above the ground.

That makes zero sense with a flat Earth model of the Earth. And is a complete debunking of the model.

Now tell me instead why we can do the math to show that the ratio at which an increase in the height of the object and the radius at which it can be detected by a given ground stations scales perfectly with the rate at which the Earth curves. I'm looking forward to your reply.

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