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RE: Socialism, short version.

in #socialism7 years ago (edited)

"social ownership of the means of production."?
The Soviets TRIED that. Remember the "5-year plans"?
They were ALWAYS 5 years away....
That was supposedly a "Workers' Revolution". Leading to a "Workers; Paradise".
SOMEONE ALWAYS takes control of Socialism and perverts it to their own benefit.

For that matter, SOMEONE ALWAYS takes control of ANY System of Government. Why I'm a Libertarian.
Keep ALL Government AWAY from me! LIMIT it as much as possible. National Defense and infrastructure are the only VALID excuses for having a Government.

My post is about what HAPPENED everywhere it's been tried. Not about propaganda for ANY Political System.
I'm a Libertarian. We Despise Politics.
Look at the most shining example every Socialist always quotes: Sweden. Sweden is going back to Capitalism!

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sweden is welfare capitalism. Not socialism.

you see that massive fall right there? That's capitalism.

That's not actually Capitalism. It is a straight robber-baron oligarchy, held up by terror.
Why the fall in life-expectancy.
Capitalism is a system where, if you have a product everyone wants, you'll accumulate Capital.
No one buys Russian i-phones, therefore no Capital. Russia is forced to STEAL most of their tech, because their system does not encourage entrepreneurship(invention).

Putin and friends got control of Russia's resources, and killed anyone who objected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_inventions
wrong, also why are you talking about Putin

lol that was the reformist failed state, nobody cares what happened after Stalin

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