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RE: More Thoughts on Women, Oppression and Porn

in #sex8 years ago

I don't understand you final point about objectification. Are you suggesting that your arousal is only objectification if I feel objectified by it? That objectification is not objective but rather is determined solely by the mental state and self-image of the object? I would suggest the opposite. if you are going to accuse someone of objectifying you, then it's their mental state, their intent, that is determinative, not your reaction to it.

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Everyone individually decides what feels objectifying. Objectification occurs when a person feels they have been treated more as an object than as a person, and when that is is different for different people.

There is not, by definition, an objective, fixed length list of things that are objectifying. It is up to us, both at the individual and at the social level to try to be more aware of the phenomenon of objectification and actively avoid it.

Reality is not what you feel it is,
you cant extrapolate moral relativism and subjectivity to any issue, it doesnt work that way.

If you learned to empathize with others, like women, then you would be able to understand that your demand for the issue to be black and white is beyond unrealistic.

Reality is not what you feel it is, you cant extrapolate moral relativism
and subjectivity to any issue, it doesnt work that way.

Objectification is defined as the seeing and/or treating a person, usually a woman, as an object.

I think it can be argued that if a person feels victimized or objectified, they could very well be. That obviously isn't the only factor when we ask ourselves, "is this objectifying?" Objectification can be classified by many other telling categories.

My final point was to illustrate how some of your questions are rhetorical. Since your first sentence said you aren't objectified by the hypothetical-- well, then it's probably not objectifying. However, that's not a realistic standpoint of how these situations usually play out.

You make the grave error of thinking that if you or someone feel something
then that something is real.
Your solipsism is getting the best of you and controls you like a demon.
Reposting this because it got hidden by censorship.

You make the big and typical mistake of thinking that if you or someone feel something
then that something is real. Your solipsism is getting the best of you and controls you like a demon. Reposting this because it got hidden by censorship.

You make the grave error of thinking that if you or someone feel something
then that something is real.
Your solipsism is getting the best of you and controls you like a demon.

can you smell the solipsism in vera's replies?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
reposting this cause it was hidden by censorship.

In that pose you can probabliy smell something else.

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