I'm a Venus guy. At 50k ft. up, room temperature and pressure makes a habitation trivial, except for the sulphuric acid, which is food for chemosynthesis. The higher pressures lower in the atmosphere make a bouyant habitat also easy.
The vastly greater resources in the atmosphere and proximity to planetary mineral resources just make more sense for industrial purposes, and profitable industry is what makes planetary colonization make sense economically.
But, Luna is prolly a better first step, because we get an off planet industrial base that is very close to Earth, with lower transport costs and times.
I'm for venus TOO...no OR.
.
I was kind wondering about the Gas Giants...everything you said about Venus applies to them too.
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or a brown dwarf star...
..but we don't have one of them handy..
...do we?
Well, yes. I think there's a tendency for things to be made of higher mass material the closer in they are, for the same reason gold dredges work: gravity.
I am still not sure whether is not more important to save first our planet. I know he is working on this field as well, but to me colonization of Mars is like giving up with our Earth.
It can seem like financial resources are going in the wrong direction, and tbqh, I'm sure they are... but not Mars colonization expenditures. It's the money spent on actual, honest-to-God golden escalators, and crap like that.
That's really not your point, though, I think. Rather, it just makes sense to fully cherish the incomprehensible treasure we have on Earth, and looking elsewhere when there's stuff to do here that's so important seems foolish. Especially spending the $B's to put up apartments on Mars.
That does seem like abandoning doable things that need doing here to not lose what we already have that's worth having, and that are getting lost. I get it.
I'm just saying that even though it looks like that, it really isn't, it's actually a way to make things here better. Colonizing Mars will do a lot of good things for conservation on Earth, kinda by accident, like moving a million people to somewhere they aren't cutting down ancient forests for charcoal.
The real giving up that we need to counter is the $1500/bottle champagne breakfast beside the diamond studded infinity pool, served in ivory-wrapped flutes on trays made of tortoise shell.
The people doing that are the real enemies of life on Earth, that aren't doing what needs to be done that they can do.
Anyway, I get it. I know you're on the front lines, and it hurts, how hard it is to plant just one more tree.
I wish him well.
but I still think luna or L5 would be a better first step.
I'm a Venus guy. At 50k ft. up, room temperature and pressure makes a habitation trivial, except for the sulphuric acid, which is food for chemosynthesis. The higher pressures lower in the atmosphere make a bouyant habitat also easy.
The vastly greater resources in the atmosphere and proximity to planetary mineral resources just make more sense for industrial purposes, and profitable industry is what makes planetary colonization make sense economically.
But, Luna is prolly a better first step, because we get an off planet industrial base that is very close to Earth, with lower transport costs and times.
So, yeah.
I'm for venus TOO...no OR.
.
I was kind wondering about the Gas Giants...everything you said about Venus applies to them too.
.
or a brown dwarf star...
..but we don't have one of them handy..
...do we?
Nemesis!
You mean
Nibiru?
oops.
Izzat what Zechariah Sitchen calls the 12th planet? I thought it was Marduk, or summat.
Anyway, sooner or later we're gonna image that elusive 9th planet somewhere out past Pluto, and there ya go.
problem is..there are millions of them
it's called the Oort cloud.
amazing the stuff you find out about when researching for a book?
in other news...an asteroid and a comet are physically the same...the only difference is the orbit.
Pluto is probably a comet.
Well, yes. I think there's a tendency for things to be made of higher mass material the closer in they are, for the same reason gold dredges work: gravity.
You like 'The Expanse'?
Agree or disagree with everything Elon Muske says, he is one who really wishes to progress mankind! One step close to Project Venus.
Yay! Another Venus booster =p
I am still not sure whether is not more important to save first our planet. I know he is working on this field as well, but to me colonization of Mars is like giving up with our Earth.
Well, i think its not about giving up. Its about "Expanding" :)
It can seem like financial resources are going in the wrong direction, and tbqh, I'm sure they are... but not Mars colonization expenditures. It's the money spent on actual, honest-to-God golden escalators, and crap like that.
That's really not your point, though, I think. Rather, it just makes sense to fully cherish the incomprehensible treasure we have on Earth, and looking elsewhere when there's stuff to do here that's so important seems foolish. Especially spending the $B's to put up apartments on Mars.
That does seem like abandoning doable things that need doing here to not lose what we already have that's worth having, and that are getting lost. I get it.
I'm just saying that even though it looks like that, it really isn't, it's actually a way to make things here better. Colonizing Mars will do a lot of good things for conservation on Earth, kinda by accident, like moving a million people to somewhere they aren't cutting down ancient forests for charcoal.
The real giving up that we need to counter is the $1500/bottle champagne breakfast beside the diamond studded infinity pool, served in ivory-wrapped flutes on trays made of tortoise shell.
The people doing that are the real enemies of life on Earth, that aren't doing what needs to be done that they can do.
Anyway, I get it. I know you're on the front lines, and it hurts, how hard it is to plant just one more tree.
Thanks for the resteem!
I hope there will be also positive changes if he succeed.
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