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RE: The Bases of our Economics Are Lost

in #science6 years ago

I wonder what the economic benefit those cars represent? Perhaps they all people engage in greater specialization by being able to conveniently commute to where more specialized jobs are.

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Those cars represent the immense waste of resources.
To be more specific, those privately owned cars are. Self-monitoring systems can be developed to keep track of usage and provide cars when required wherever required.
In simpler and more relatable terms, imagine the self-driving uber like service just without the company monopoly. See https://www.thevenusproject.com/resource-based-economy/technology/transportation/ for more.

I am not against using resources more efficiently. The draw back to uber like entities is that farther than a few miles, the cost gets very high. Ever take a 50 mile uber trip? Prohibitively expensive. Probably around 100 dollars. Cars are the most time and money efficient way to get to places more than a few miles apart. And uber only works well in urban areas.

I meant uber like service in terms of how it is available only when we need it, and you don't need to own the car itself.
You might like reading this book to get a better look at what life in a Resource Based Economy can be.

Yes, and I pointed out that it is sometimes a more efficient use of resources to own a car.

Every economy is resource based. And so far, capitalism blows away any other economic system in the efficient use of resources. The main economic problem we are facing now is that our monetary units have been compromised. This has all kinds of horrible consequences. Once a stable currency is reintroduced into the economy, things will turn around.

All anyone can do, is to live a sustainable lifestyle. Above all, stay out of debt. Don't carry a balance on any credit card, buy small items with cash. Don't get a loan for a new car, buy a car that you can afford to own outright. Pay for your education as you can afford to pay for it. Don't buy a house, rent until you can buy a house. When you reign in your desires to match your income, things get better.

I'd say they represent a mindset that is flawed, "convenient" is a nice word, I'd say it's far more convenient to actually talk to people and use modes of transportation that don't require 30 times what is necessary to get to a place, if those cars are all necessary and required we must be really specialised, but in my mind 90% of the economy is totally useless and bloated, including production and manufacturing, selling and reselling, marketing and telecommunications, .... seems really useless to me, it just creates noise and clutter and wastes time and effort, but hey I can't say we know what we are doing, so I'm part of that, I can just say I'm convinced things could be much simpler, because in reality they are and in our warped televised one, we are basically a show on earth, that's getting nowhere quick ...

by the way, having ~400 specialists should mean that place is doing amazing things, usually 5-10 people make pretty big things... so 400 if they are capable of working together should be doing quite a lot, in that case the cars could be excused if it was really important those people get somewhere two hours faster... since that's 800+ hours a day saved and used more efficiently, sadly thou driving cars isn't always stimulating the imagination or creativity :)

Yes, cars don't stimulate imagination or creativity. They enable efficiency.

sure, search for "traffic" and "pollution" if you don't see that in the air around big cities where there are lots of nervous people trying to get from point A to point B every day, stuck in repeat, pretty efficient and special :)

Now imagine them all on horseback...

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