nerdig, sry to break it to you: there is no discussion. the globe is dead since 2015. also, it's not about "convincing" somebody to "believe" in something, but about what you can verify – we true earthers don't "believe" our earth is flat, but we KNOW for a fact it's not a spinning ball in space.

it's you who believes: your heliocentric faith, your belief system being scientism, your religion hiding as a one-world-government & the globe being your god.