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RE: Flu Vaccines Elevate Air-Borne Flu Particles by 630% - USA National Academy of Sciences Publication

in #science6 years ago (edited)

This a very cool finding and thanks for sharing it. I also read the paper...at least abstract and conclusion of the paper. I would like to quote their conclusion and emphasis what they said:" The association of current and prior year vaccination with increased shedding of influenza A might lead one to speculate that certain types of prior immunity promote lung inflammation, airway closure, and aerosol generation. This first observation of the phenomenon needs confirmation. If confirmed, this observation, together with recent literature suggesting reduced protection with annual vaccination, would have implications for influenza vaccination recommendations and policies."

Authors empirically find the positive correlation between vaccination and virus infection for the first time and since study is limited to a community college...this data cannot be generalized and in their own words "need confirmation"! This is a huge SPECULATION based on limited data! But if this is true in large population and several researchers need to confirm this..not only this one, then there will be a huge change in policy and way people see influenza vaccination.

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@guernicamikan shared this with me in another comment on this page.

A study in Hong Kong did a double blind placebo study and found that people who vaccinated were 5.5 times to get sick (people were monitored for about 270 days)

https://healthimpactnews.com/2013/study-flu-vaccine-causes-5-5-times-more-respiratory-infections-a-true-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-study/

This is a good study because unlike gov- funded studies, it uses a genuine placebo (a saline solution).

That link led me to this study - Oxford Academic: Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine

I am yet to read it but I will. If you care to share your findings me I'd be grateful.

Thank you for a great summary (which I should have included but will now edit in).

Great finding! This is very non-intuitive knowing the way inactivated vaccine should work to enhance our immunity. Strains of the flu are generally grown in fertilized chicken egg and they are killed or inactivated before their antigen is used for vaccination. Seems like problem is with how our body is reacting to those virus antigens and developing immunity against it after vaccination. One hypothesis could be the strain of virus antigen people are getting rather amplifies the immune response in a bad way by messing up with the inflammation signals, particularly of our adaptive immune system that is suppose to remember the antigen it encounters for future defense.

Or simply there are so many strains of flu given to us these days through vaccine that our immune system get friendly and used to with the virus antigens. As a result, immune cells do not not attack the real virus at all (do not even release antibody) when its time to defend us from influenza. The real influenza then does its job of getting us sick by replicating quickly in our body. I will wait till someone contest or backup the PNAS paper you have highlighted.

I found this paper in the Lancet journal [1] saying influenza vaccine is not that effective (only roughly works about 35% of the time) and other paper saying 43% people believes flu vaccine can give you the flu [2]. Influenza vaccination is indeed a confusing thing for many people and it’s worth highlighting and talking about it in the platform like Steemit. Looking forward for more post like this.

[1] https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(11)70295-X

[2] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2014.11.017

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