It's an excellent point that you raise and one that should be pointed out loud and clear when vaccination storm troopers start screaming about herd immunity and how everybody needs to be vaccinated. The vaccines are actually spreading more disease than anything else based upon the fact that you have infected them but you have not truly immunized them. This is why you have all these kids getting diphtheria, but it's only the kids that were vaccinated that get the disease.
I want to find a 30 minute or less video explaining this science as well as much more very hard anti-vax science that is designed to put the vaxers back in their seats. There are lots of long documentaries, but they will never watch them. I want to find a great short video that is basically irrefutable and designed to be an intellectual "punch to the gut" for vaccine proponents. Every anti-vaxer should then have a little card to hand out every time a debate starts. i.e. "Just watch this and then perhaps we can talk."
There is no way logic and reason will convince someone who is acting emotionally irrational. What we must do is speak to the irrational emotional reactionary part of their mind. I have been listening to an audio book by Scott Adams called "Win Bigly." The book is not about Trump, it is talking about persuasive dialogue. I agree with Adams most humans if not all are not logical and do no react to data reasonably.
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I fully agree that you can't argue with irrationality, but not all of those that I encounter are irrational. Many have simply never looked at the question in any level of detail because they believe that science has already proven the case. It is only for these people that any semblance of science and reasoning will work.
For those that are irrational, perhaps you can use NLP or something similar with them, but personally I prefer to ignore others that can't even structure some simple logical reasoning. They are not the real influencers of others in any case. I believe that the time you take in educating others is best spent on the 10% that can think and can influence others, and the other 90% should simply be left alone. The other 90% will only frustrate you in any case.
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