RE: Flat Earth - The End Debate
Oh come on now you're just being silly.
I observe no motion
Because you don't do any observing, presumably. If you just look, you will see.
1000mph because you google it.
Nope. Can be measured by any amateur by oneself.
The sun appears close, yet you google it to be 93 million miles away
A good telescope and the right knowledge can easily measure the distance of any star
I see diverging rays, yet you google that they are actually parallel
I think this one must be trolling or a joke so i'll leave that
I observe flat horizons at high altitude, yet 'enlightened commentators' say they see curvature at 35k ft.
If you watch my video I spent a lot of time on, which presumably you didn't, you will see that it is demonstrably curved, as in, I demonstrated it logically, and it can be tested by any amateur
we live in a matrix simulation because you google quantum theory, but have no understanding of it and take it on 'faith' while calling it 'science.
No, I call it philosophy. Being in a simulation is a statistical thought experiment. It cannot be proven and for that reason, it isn't science. It's just fun to think about
Unlike conspiracy theorists, I'm under no pretense that I understand or can extrapolate any ideas from what Quantum Mechanics is. I read about it because it's fascinating, not because I understand it. People spend their whole lives studying it and still don't know everything.
you Google CGI images from a space agency that can't get its continents colored or sized correctly
I'm not sure what the point of this one is, but yes, I google images taken from one of the most transparent companies there are, and I read about their explanations of their photography and digital processing, which can be corroborated and replicated by amateur atronomers, or in the extreme far cases, you can visit observatories and see for yourself.
'hexagon' on Saturn, a pagan symbol on a pagan god
Absurd. Hexagons are not hexagrams, they're two totally different shapes. Hexagons are simple geometric shapes seen throughout nature, like in honeycombs because it's geometrically efficient.
The hexaGON has indeed been a mystery which scientists are happy to think about, simulations of which can be run by any amateur on a computer, which is how recently scientists think they can explain it.
Ships don't disappear over a horizon
Yes they do, and it can be tested by any amateur with a good zoom lens, and often is. Atmospheric lensing is a scientific process that actually proves the curvature of the earth as explained in another comment so I wouldn't use it against yourself if I were you. Atmospheric lensing looks very different from something increasingly dipping over the horizon the further out it goes, and the lensing effect actually serves the opposite effect you're looking for. Simple amateur experiments can show this.
mountains shouldn't be visible yet arev
I explained and demonstrated in a way amateurs can see in another comment, you can check.
we are tilted 66.6deg from horizontal
No, 23.5 degrees... something that can be tested by any amateur
You say a day isn't 24hrs, that winter occurs when we are closest to the sun, the moon is 'tidal locked.'
All observable by anybody paying attention or an amateur astronomer.
moon hoax jargon
Won't even bother with that, a whole other subject
I believe time is unchanging yet you google it to be dynamic
Studying science shows you that time is relative and dynamic, and yes it happens to be very advanced science that you or I cannot easily disprove. However, many people can because they go to college and they experiment and learn about these things their whole lives, and your kid could do just the same - anybody can.
Matter appears stable, yet you google that it expands with speed.
Observable with simple classroom experiments
You say it is belief in God that ailes the world,
It is one of many things, yes. Certainly not the only thing.
it is faith in science
It is faith in our own senses, and our own existence. Literally everything is 'faith' in that regard. Is my cat white, or is that a false flag that I was taught as a child and its colour is actually blue???
Do you see my point?
The difference is that everything you just said are things that can very easily be observed and re-tested. Many of those things I have done for fun with a telescope, other things you read about the process, not just the conclusion. As in, you learn the actual science behind it, how lensing works, what gases are involved etc.
The problem for you guys is, that if any of it is wrong, anybody in the public, literally any of the billions of humans can disprove it with ease, and it would be corrected. No government in the world could suppress the entire world except the few thousand flat earthers. You're not special.
And unfortunatley, none of you have. All you have done is googled. You don't go out there and test it, and when you do, you have the specific agenda to disprove something. That's not science, that's cognitive bias.
You go out in your car and go 'I'm going to prove the earth is flat by taking a video of the flat horizon and zoom in and see that you can still see a ship'
But a scientist will go 'I wonder if the curvature of earth can be observed with a zoom lens? and if so, how powerful does it need to be? how is atmospheric lensing involved? Is it more likely the earth is flat? Let's go and experiment to find out.'
If you go outside for a while and actually try and test something, let me know, because the whole world is waiting, especially the millions upon millions that have tested themselves and proven themselves that the earth is demonstrably round.
And until you stop moving the goalposts and actually address my arguments I've gone into great efforts to address here, which you or anybody else hasn't even come close to achieving, I'll consider this debate over. You are welcome to address things with facts and science and data, but don't youtube shit with the specific agenda to disprove. I don't listen to cognitive bias, neither should you.
That took you awhile, solid effort. Quote away and say, "I disagree because amateurs can prove xyz." "Any amateur can prove the motion of the earth." LOL, tell Einstein. "Diverging rays?....must be trolling..." "Hexagon is NOT a pagan symbol..." ... "I've proven curvature" "Ships do disappear and any amateur knows this" Sigh. Oh, and make sure you know fake facts, earths tilt is 23.4 according to trusted science.
https://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/special/earth.htm
This is always how this ends. You should look up some videos refuting your claims, but you won't. I've seen your proof, and I know science, it is layered nonsense steeped in occultism and Alchemy. You stated there were no issues with your founding fathers of science being alchemists, because they couldn't get it done? You have some studying to do on the philosophers stone. Continue your faith and let me know when you realize why there's a hexagon on Saturn (a flattened cube). While you're at it, let me know why NASA photoshops cloud formations with ctrl -z, wrote 'sex' in the clouds, why they put Disney's Pluto face on Pluto, why the earth and moon were given sizes that 'square the circle,' who founded the JPL and their involvement with the Babalon workings, or why 93 million miles is such an important number in thelema.
You think I'm moving goal posts, but fail to realize it's the same answer....