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RE: [WARNING: SCAMMER on Steemit] - "Steem Cash" is the latest project of a known con-man

in #scam8 years ago

I'd like to clarify that I have never asked you to remove the post but pointed out that the content of the mail is (at least to me) not a scam as per its definition.

If people interpret this mail as scam because it has been written by Mark Llyford, is their decision to make .

By no means am I associated with Mark's businesses but I largly disagree on how people (some of them whales) attack him here on steem and personally because he has failed one of his businesses.

Call me blunt or naive, but I have had a talk with Mark in person and think that this downvote and attack campaign is not justified and is close to mobbing.

I appreciate that people make their own decisions on facts and due diligence rather then repeating content of random sites of the internet.

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@marklyford has been lying so much and so long time that it should be very clear that he is deliberately scamming people and not trying to do any kind of legitimate business. His businesses haven't failed, they have gone just like he had planned: he gets all the money and investors get nothing.

Just read these articles, please:

Note that all three of those articles were written by the same person, Ian Demartino, who has gone out of his way to launch personal attacks against Mark and his businesses (@samupaha I don't know if you are connected with Ian). I am speaking as one who has invested (and yes, lost) money in Mark's businesses but who still finds him to be totally honest and hard-working. I knew going in of the risks--and Mark went out of his way to make sure I understood those risks. His marketing techniques may be too click-baity for some, but that is different than calling him a con. Mark has shown great resilience in coming back against this kind of attack, and continues to work very hard to provide content of value and to be at the cutting edge of cryptocurrency.

Note that all three of those articles were written by the same person, Ian Demartino, who has gone out of his way to launch personal attacks against Mark and his businesses

What proof do you have that this is just a personal attack and not real journalism? Can you prove any lies in Demartino's articles?

Oh and I sat in to the actual "interviews" demartino did, and listened and watched video of the others. He is literally sneering the entire time he is explaining he is going to do an objective piece about mark and lied when he said he would correct his pieces if he found things to be wrong (he didn't, and there was plenty to correct).

He also misrepresented that he was co-founder of the site he writes for, and admitted to lying flat out on recording, and misrepresenting that, among other things.

I have physical evidence, visual evidence, and know exactly what went on on a large majority of it as I knew mark and his personnel and operations. And I have no problem kicking his ass over mistakes, just as much defending someone that is being flat out attacked unjustly.

Kevin, you are in denial, the very best thing that you could do is give Marky boy some money......or something valuable, he'll pay you back, no worries

Thanks for the links. I'll read up on it.

Thanks for sharing. Lots of talk going on but so far only you have shared resources to give more information on the history of this whole situation.

Do you know if there were any public remarks made by Banx to counter-act these articles (interested in both perspectives)?

Well, Lyford has made lots of videos. It takes time to watch them so I haven't done that much (yet). This is his "response" to the latest article:

He basically just boasts how he will continue working on Banx and doesn't address any real issues that DeMartino has raised.

I just wrote a post about Banx and C-CEX. Now I'm reading old bitcointalk threads to see if I can find more interesting stuff. Unfortunately Lyford has deleted and edited the official thread so much that it's hard to know what really happened. But here is another one that I'm going through currently.

Lyford would only go so far, the moment you dared to ask what happened to your money or you questioned a decision you would be blocked, Facebook, phone, email, twitter, Marky didn't care, he'd block you everywhere.....poetry

Lieford received almost 1 million dollars from investors, maybe more. This is fact. Banx run for 18 months and didn't make a single cent. Yet investors were paid out astronomical profits in Banxs shares leading them to believe the cash equivalent was a healthy profit. Once money stopped coming from investment Marky boy got bored told everyone Banx was making no money and sailed off into the sunset.

he conjured this mess up in jail, how about the fact that he doubled the net worth of his company from $6m to $12m overnight yet no tax implications? and then went 10 fold to a value of $120m overnight with no obvious tax implications, the man is a genius or a crook someone needs to decide

I'd be interested to know if the PDF contained any form of maleware (was my first thought when I read the email), but also if he's got a subscription list, and telling people "Steem Cash" launches on 4th August, what else will he be trying to do on / after 4th August? Will he be contacting people directly about purchasing through him etc etc...

It is a pdf. With Text. With an exclusive interview.

Not sure on the rest of that tho

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