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I am officially anti-SBD after making this comment on @krnel's post.

According to coinmarketcap.com, over 50 million Steem have been printed over the last year. Yes, you heard me right. We've generated over 20% inflation in the last year. How? SBD.

SBD is a completely failed experiment. It can't hold it's peg and it devalues our currency. It's less than worthless. It actively hurts our platform by increasing volatility and forcing us to print more coins than we should.

What?

SBD is viewed as the debt of Steem because you can destroy them and receive $1 worth of Steem for each SBD burned. However, this mechanic only soft-pegs the bottom-end of the currency to $1. Even this peg is broken because of our haircut rule. As of this moment, you only get around 60 cents worth of Steem for each SBD burned.

When?

During the bull run, way more SBD was being printed than we can now afford to pay back. When Steem was $5 a coin, a post worth $40 generated 20 SBD. None of this SBD got burned because SBD was valued higher than $1. Why would anyone trade an asset worth more than $1 for $1?

Today, that same $40 post would have a face value of $2 because Steem has lost 20 times its value. The $40 post should have created 8 Steem coins of inflation. Instead the SBD alone generated somewhere between 20 and 50 Steem coins because SBD didn't come back to $1 until August when Steem was also $1. Today, the haircut rule allows 1 SBD to be traded for 2.5 coins. This downward pressure will continue until SBD finally gets back up to $1.

Where?

The main problem with SBD can be pinpointed to the fact that it is too closely correlated with the price of Steem. If the value of SBD approached $1 every week or even every month we would not be having this problem right now. However, we obviously don't print enough SBD fast enough to devalue it, and we can't afford to burn them fast enough either because by the time we get to that moment we've already dug too big of a hole. It's quite the Catch-22.

Why?

SBD was supposed to be a less volatile asset than Steem soft-pegged to the dollar. With a peak of $14 and a low of $0.60 we see that it is no less volatile than Steem ($8 - $0.25). Unless we want to have a more volatile coin with high inflation there is absolutely no point in keeping SBD around except for the fact that it would be a pain to remove.

Alternative?

I've been saying for a while that I'd really like to see a version of the MakerDAO platform on Steem. If we provide an alternate way for users to create and burn SBD the problem will get solved and we might not even have to hard-fork.

The way it works is simple... ish. Steem coins would be staked in a collateralized debt position. Anyone with one of these positions is allowed to create SBD based on how much Steem collateral they've staked. For example, let's say I stake $1000 worth of Steem in a CDP. I would now be allowed to create 500 SBD "out of thin air" but I wouldn't be able to withdraw my Steem until I paid it back.

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The Maker/Dai solution is absolutely superior to what we have now. The price often hits $1 multiple times a day. When the value is less than $1, users are incentivized to buy in order to pay off their loans at a discounted price. When the value is > $1 there is an incentive to stake more collateral and create more stable-coins.

If we somehow combined this system with our own I think we'd have a product that was far superior to Maker/Dai. With zero fees and three second blocks our blockchain can react faster to crashes in the market. In addition, the old stabilization methods would still be in effect, which would make it slightly more stable. We'd be able to burn coins by either paying off a CDP or converting SBD for Steem. We'd create coins with inflation or by backing them with collateral. Having all these options would finally break the correlation of SBD value to Steem value and we'd stop being put in a situation where we're forced to create more inflation than we claimed we were going to.

Unfortunately, this is a lot of work that no one really has a direct incentive to develop. Obviously, Steemit Inc. has quite enough on their plate :(

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Hey hey ho ho SBD has got to go

I saw right after I joined that SBD was fishy. It should have been pegged at 1.00 as intended. There was a reason the bidbots all wanted payment in SBD, and it was in that play that many incurred a loss using them as they received half of their compensation back as SP. Unless they peg it and keep it at 1.00, it is just another tool for the speculators to manipulate.

I will need to think on the model you propose. I really don't see a need for there to be SBD so wondering why they don't just get rid of it.

I think a hedge available on-platform, where we can park some gains without moving them off site, or into bank accounts; is a real selling point. It may require we just give SBD time, or a few tweaks.
Perhaps a suggestion like the one above, or something organic like Steemmonsters cards.

I love this idea. It would create the stabilization that we need. In a way I'm happy that the price is down, it has people think about ways to fix what isn't working. As the saying goes "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!"

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Sadly ideas aren't enough.. we need devs.
And the ability to really change code if needed..

I realize ideas alone won't fix the problem. However, the fact that people are offering ideas means that someone might take the idea and run with it.

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I realize ideas alone won't fix the problem. However, the fact that people are offering ideas means that someone might take the idea and run with it.

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Yea. Luckily all (good) ideas are also saved on this blockchain.
Later when there is time to make these ideas reality, you just have to find them again.. ;)

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Interesting approach. You should talk with some witnesses about that!

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Collateralised pegs are also used by the bitUSD (and other) assets on BitShares. I like how they work.

Seeing has both are DPOS and had the same lead developer that would probably make such an implementation easier.

You are right friend. And if something is not done to this, actually I don't know how long steem can last long.

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Great post thanks for your work.
I agree the way SBD is setup is not working for the purpose as to be a stable coin. SBD is too much correlated with the price of Steem and the mechanism to print SBD is not taking full effect on the market.
The idea of the Maker/Dai solution is great. I also could imagine a similar system with an AI-Algo as a Market Maker to create a Stable Coin. I also think that the Stable Coin should be off-chain in form as a Smart Contract.
But yes first we all have to agree that SBD needs to be changed and since Steem is in a big overall remake we should take the opportunity to solve the SBD problem as well!
Thanks for your great Input, Re&Up

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Steem is in a Remake?

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Don't you think that with the Steemit.inc situation the Steem community is about to change. Steemit.com is not going to be anymore the main frontend page the Steem Blockchain. And more independent developers are trying to do the work that originaly Steemit.inc should have done like Blocktrades and RocksDB implementation or the new anounced vaporchain from fulltimegeek.
This dynamic within the community is only getting stronger and we could use the wind of change to also improve the SBD model!
What do you think?

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We are already independent.
The best solution is to go with Stinc and to supplement each other..
But if stinc fucks up.. The steem blockchain will roll on and other Devs will step up.. As you mentioned.

This doesnt mean that there is a Remake going on..

Here is another alternative to SMTs and Vaporchain:
https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@shredz7/the-first-token-on-the-steem-blockchain

Well stated!! Great post. I'm with you. SBD has always kinda been BS in my mind. Especially when it shot to nearly $20!! Only thing I like about it now though is getting higher STEEM payouts because of it. But yes, I definitely agree with you on everything. At least nowadays, there's no more SBD payouts.

That is a great solution and very easy to implement! Thanks for your input, I am resteeming this!

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Would love it if the Maker/Dai solution was imitated by steem for sbd.

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