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RE: Is there a scientific basis for Jesus Christ?
Science recuses itself from having an opinion on anything that is not testable and repeatable. So rare interventions from God are going to be beyond its realm.
However, many things that wind up in court concern one-time events that we cannot go back and repeat.
Yet our courts do not hesitate to reach conclusions based on the credibility of one or more eyewitnesses.
Some interventions from god should be testable. The biblical flood, for instance. If it really happened, it would have left a mark on our planet.
Eyewitness accounts are considered the most unreliable form of evidence, by the way. People get things wrong all the time. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/
Yep. I have already stipulated that there is no intention to give your incontestable proof. But those eyewitness accounts have been enough for a billion or so people already.
I agree that the Flood would certainly leave a mark ...if God wanted it to. But since it was clearly a supernatural event (where did all that extra water come from anyway?), it is just as likely that the scientific proof disappeared with the excess water.
It's a delicate balancing act... leaving just enough evidence to satisfy those who are looking for Him but not enough for those who require iron clad proof.
Those who require iron clad proof require said proof because they are looking for him. They just don't want to make a mistake. Examining facts before claiming something is true is what advanced science to where it is today.
The best way of thinking of this is your doctor says you have an infection and need a shot of antibiotics or you'll die. It's a good idea, maybe, to get a second opinion but holding out for iron clad proof is a good way to end up dead.
The difference is that doctors usually have a history of being correct in their diagnoses and there's plenty of scientific proof showing that antibiotics will help get rid of the infection. There's nothing like that when it comes to christianity.
Actually, no. George Washington died because his doctors bled him to death with leeches. The history of medicine is much worse than the history of Christianity. You pick a doctor carefully, you should pick a pastor carefully. Both can do you a lot of good or a lot of harm.
But you missed my point. In the case of your particular chosen doctor, you rely on the fact that he has studied hard and trained well and therefore your decision to accept what he prescribes does not involve going back and reviewing whether there is absolute proof available. You don't demand such evidence to save your physical life, why do you demand it to save your eternal life?
Eyewitnesses relate things from their perspective. There are always multiple perspectives. This needs to be born in mind when reviewing these types of accounts.
True. That's part of the credibility is the slight differences you find between the various accounts. But there are plenty of them and there was lots of communication between the early churches and the eyewitnesses were well known personally among most of them. So any falsehoods would have been quickly challenged by all the others in the early churches who had also witnessed these things.
Flood myths are very common in religion, it's been argued many times that there was a large flood but that it was in just the Middle East or a certain area of the middle east. I'm not sure how much work has been done on it recently, but it's certainly a common enough theory. These people didn't go very far, so it wouldn't take much to engulf their whole world.
That's right! :-)
As nicely explained here:
Modern courts do not just refer to testimony of "reliable" witnesses. They also take to account all physical evidence from investigation and ask for opinion of experts in the field.
True. But court's only weigh the evidence that is available. They don't fail to render a ruling because they don't have as much physical evidence or credible expert opinions as they would like..
That's why it is so common that courts make unjust sentences or false statements! They often have to rely on witness testimonies and little scientific evidence. Judges are also subject to personal bias.
Science does not care about someone's personal bias or opinion.
Alas, science has its self-imposed limits.
Don't get me wrong. I soak up all the scientific results I can find. Love it!
But where science declares it cannot go, I use whatever else I can find to learn things.
The only way to know what lies beyond the reach of Science is if Someone out there reveals it to me. I'm not closing my mind to that revelation because it doesn't come through science. Science is only a tool. It is not the only way to know something.