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RE: Jesus: The Only Way to God?

in #religion8 years ago

Hell is when God turns his back to you .
Jesus as a path to God , the real son of a God ,then why in religious books stands : God don't have sons ? He is resurrected but not his body ? I'm really confused here .
I often go back and read The Book of Enoch ,because Enoch of all Prophets and all people before and after was taken by God , in flesh and in soul .
Hebrews 11: 5 which says, "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."
Genesis 5:24 which says, "And Enoch walked with God: and he [was] not; for God took him."
And in Islam : Surah Maryam verses 56-57: "And remember Idris ( Enoch in Islam ) in the Book; he was indeed very truthful, a Prophet. And We lifted him to a lofty station".
So can you help me with that ?

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I believe Hell is when you turn your back on God. His hand is always reaching out to you, he would never turn his back on his children. But sometimes, we aren't ready to accept him, and that's what this post was about. We can always turn to Jesus when we are ready, even those in hell.

I believe God the Father is a God with an actual body, and Jesus is his actual son. We are all the Father's spirit children. Jesus died, and his spirit left his body for 3 days. Then he was resurrected to an immortal body, one that is perfect and transcendent. Because of Jesus's sacrifice, we will all also be resurrected to immortal bodies.

Enoch was a great prophet. He inspired his people so that his whole city, called Zion, was perfectly righteous. The whole city got translated to Heaven. How that happened exactly, I have no idea.

Moses chapter 7 speaks of Enoch in more detail:
17 The fear of the Lord was upon all nations, so great was the glory of the Lord, which was upon his people. And the Lord blessed the land, and they were blessed upon the mountains, and upon the high places, and did flourish.

18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them.

19 And Enoch continued his preaching in righteousness unto the people of God. And it came to pass in his days, that he built a city that was called the City of Holiness, even Zion.

21 And it came to pass that the Lord showed unto Enoch all the inhabitants of the earth; and he beheld, and lo, Zion, in process of time, was taken up into heaven. And the Lord said unto Enoch: Behold mine abode forever.
I hope this helps!

I was thinking that i will get some answer like a opinion from you but you sound like a Jehova witness now. Zion is mentioned in Mormon Scripture . For me only works original scripture .The Book of Enoch.

I am not Jehovah's Witness.

I am not familiar with the Book of Enoch. Where is it located?

What more opinion were you looking for? I believe all of Enoch's city ascended to heaven because everyone was righteous. I don't know how the miracle happened.

@iggy what book of Enoch are you proclaiming to be the source of all truth for you personally?
There are 30 different "books" all claiming to be the original and true book of Enoch. None of them are accepted as canon by any religion that I am aware of.
I think she was just searching out what she understood to be the book of Enoch you were claiming.
Then you attack her?
Stop trolling. Make a point and be clear about where you are sourcing your personal truths from so that others can defend or rebuttal or otherwise contribute. Otherwise this just breaks down to name calling.

@iggy I recommend reading the Book of Moses, found in the Pearl of Great Price. Yes, it is cannon for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It has a lot of information about Enoch.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses/7?lang=eng
Chapter 7 is about Enoch.

If English is not your first language, this is available in dozens of others, just click on the globe icon on the top.

I'm curious to read the Book of Enoch you linked. Thanks for sharing!

I'm not trolling , i'm not attackin her . I'm sorry if you think that i am . Source is Ethiophian Book of Enoch . This one : http://www.forbiddengate.com/BookOfEnoch.pdf . If you have some better suggestion i will be more than happy to read it.
And yes i know that these books are not in canon .

I read that too and to my mind what it means is that death of the body is not strictly nessecary. If you look at mass and energy as one thing then it says he released his mass converting it to energy yet allowed him to not decay directly to entropy.

Curious to know what @casandrarose thinks.

No answer for me from Cas

I replied to you, did you not get it? (My internet is funky and sometimes posts get lost)

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