RE: Why my God is only true God.

stan (71) 8 years ago

Wow. You make a lot of claims for which you have no backing. Some of the Jews rejected Jesus, some became Christians. Neither the unbelieving Jews nor unbelieving Romans participated in the Bible or had any interest in it. The message of the Bible is obviously not the message of the unbelieving Jews or Romans. Christianity was persecuted by both for 300 years and that would hardly give them any influence on the Scriptures being preserved by Christians hiding in the catacombs. Your red ink argument is bogus. Red ink didn't appear until long after the printing press. And the people who quoted Jesus are the same people who paraphrased Him and taught what He taught in their own words. Putting words in quotes or red ink doesn't give them more credibility than other words from the same writers.

I have given you proof that Jesus claimed to be God many times. Why do you ignore that and keep challenging all Christians to bring you just one? Ok, I'll humor you one more time with just two of many:

Jesus' words to the Pharisee Nicodemus (John 3:16-19):

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

These are "red letter" words.

Some like to play games with claiming some Greek word has some other meaning. When they do I point out that the people of Jesus day who understood his words precisely, knew exactly what he was claiming. From John 10:31

Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

cryptosteem (42) 8 years ago

Ok let me make my point clear not all the Jews, i was talking about majority of Jews who rejected him and his message and are still. Waiting for the messiah to come.
Now let't tacle what u claim to be the words of Jesus, and instead stating John, and from the New Testament "English version" again I ask u or anyone to bring me JEUSU him self claiming to be God or the son of God. not what John mark or Mathew and Paul, claims. Just give me the statement of JEUSUS him self. I can give them to u very easily. Like what I already told u JEUSUS said he was only send to the lost shepherd of "ISREAL" and not to the Gentiles, and also where he says " I can cure the blind, bring back the dead in God permission" in what? " plz give me JEUSU statement only my friend with all joue respect.

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stan (71) 8 years ago (edited)

Where do you think the quotes you just mentioned come from?

Jesus did not write anything. All we have is the accounts of his hand picked disciples who He instructed to spread the Good News. John 3:16 is the purest possible quote of Jesus as it was preserved by the Holy Spirit Jesus sent to help John recall His words exactly. In other accounts, Jesus said "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father." and "Before Abraham was, I AM" and "I and the Father are One." The Bible is full of such references which I have shown you before. Further, I published this especially for you just a week ago. Have you forgotten it already?

cryptosteem (42) 8 years ago

Even if I agree with theological, speaking then we are all from God "God" say's to me u are from and to me is ur return. So theological speaking so are we and yes, Muhammad is like Moses. Both prophets of God. P.B.U.Them but there is no need to reague about the topic we already addressed, my only question is, in asiah, illiterate prophet, was named, also the location, was mentioned the exact location. Of sela have u, went and Google where "Sela" is in what countery, that country is now known as "Saudi Arabia" or was this also a lie "Muhammed" P.B.u.H" did he also invent the bible. Because from your own scriptiors, in "Isaiah 42 : 11" God specificly mentions a particular area, did u go and do ur own research where that area is go do ur research, what country is that area in. But u don't want the TRUETH, u still want to be upon false, I hope and pray God, shows u the way, that's all I can do for u, my friend, and my brother in humanity. He who reject the scripture of God, will never inherit, "the kingdom of God"

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stan (71) 8 years ago

You should keep on reading the very next chapter of Isaiah 43:1-5.
It tells of the regathering of Israel and the sacrificing of Egypt, Cush, and Seba.

But now, this is what the LORD says—he who created you, Jacob, he who formed you, Israel: "Do not fear, for I have redeemed you; I have summoned you by name; you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze. For I am the LORD your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I give Egypt for your ransom, Cush and Seba in your stead. Since you are precious and honored in my sight, and because I love you, I will give people in exchange for you, nations in exchange for your life. Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west.

Clearly, the regathering of Israel has happened as was prophesied over 2500 years ago. Keep reading the rest of Isaiah. Then re-read the Ezekiel 38 about the destruction of the forces of Gog and Magog. It does not go well for enemies of the Holy One of Israel. It is better to become friends while there is still time.

stan (71) 8 years ago (edited)

If we go into the Old Testament, you and I will really need to become scholars! Not saying that isn't a good thing to do, but it takes great knowledge to know what they are talking about and we could go on picking out individual verses that seem to point one way or another forever. (I do believe that that verse is pointing to people currently under control of Islam. The question is why are they rejoicing?)

Then there is this much more interesting list of Muslim territories in Ezekiel:

Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, and say ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you. After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land. -- Ezekiel 38

I think its best to focus on the only thing that matters:

The essential point of Christianity is Jesus' death and resurrection is the key to Heaven. Muhammad denied this explicitly.

This is serious. It means that trusting Muhammad is turning your back on what Jesus says is the only way to eternal life.

All the rest is an interesting exercise. Since Muhammad denied this sine qua non of Christianity, everything else he said is moot.

The fate of nearly two billion people hangs in this balance.

cryptosteem (42) 8 years ago

My friend u are a very intelligent man, I ask you in the name of God the most high to use ur intelligence. Wiseley we had Muslims hold the commandments of all the messengers, including Jesus. P.B.U.H, and I am 100% not doing this to argue with you, but hold the law of all God "messenger's" love for ur brother what u love for ur self, this is God teachings to all his messenger's. To pass on to the people. Muammad P,B.U.H also said none of u truly believe until u love for ur brother what u love for ur self. He only came to fulfill. The prophecy which I quoted. "Isaiah" 42:10-13
10 Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.
13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.
Plz tell me where is "sela" sauid Arabia. In a city called madina. Did u now when he fled mecca he went to madina and the. Did u know all the people of madina came out singing and praising God and his messenger just like the prophesy in "Isaiah" described. Not to mention the prophesy, of JEUSU, P. B.U.H him telling his people. Listen to it carefully do ur own reasearch open ur heart and let the TRUETH guide u.

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cryptosteem (42) 8 years ago (edited)

Rember on those statement that I quoted. Is not based on what Mathew or John Luke and mark. Are saying but based only on what JEUSU is saying so with all respect they are different. To the claims made against him, and clearly for any one who is seeking the TRUETH, this shows Jesus P. B .U.H never claimed to be God nor the son of God. I got a question what does begotten son of God mean. And how is he begotten by God?

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stan (71) 8 years ago (edited)

This video makes the case that Muhammad was more like Moses, a mere man, than Jesus, the Son of God. That much is true, so how can he claim to be greater than Jesus?

Jesus clearly disagrees with this video. Jesus said He, himself, was the one Moses was talking about and the only prophets he predicted to come after him were false prophets, as I have shown elsewhere in this thread. Here are His exact "red letter" words:

John 5:39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life. ...46 "If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?"

Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Muhammad's fruits were very different than those of Jesus.

Nowhere does Jesus indicate that there will be any more true prophets before He returns. This is because we have something better during this age, the "Spirit of Truth" which lives inside us. The Spirit of Truth is clearly not a reference to Muhammed, because Muhammed cannot live inside us forever. This video admits that Muhammed died like any other ordinary man.

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. John 14:16.

This Spirit is clearly identified above as the Spirit of Jesus since He says "I will come to you." More evidence that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One.

The entire book of Hebrews points out how Jesus is superior to even the angels. There is simply no need for another prophet now that Jesus has come and left his Spirit with us forever:

In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. - Hebrews 1:1-4

One characteristic of true prophets is that they never contradict a prior prophet. This is another thing that lets us correctly understand what type of prophet Muhammad was.

cryptosteem (42) 8 years ago

My friend do u stop and read ur post to try and make sense to yourself. Once ur telling usJesus is God, and then he is begotten son of God, all ur doing is contradicting ur self.

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stan (71) 8 years ago

Nope. The son of God is God. It may sound strange, but it is theologically correct.

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