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RE: Agnostic Nudists on the Serengeti

in #religion8 years ago

Meanwhile on the other side of the planet in Ireland we have a naive little boy named Staniel. Staniel believes whatever he's told and doesn't ask questions. He is the product of being raised by religious parents that believe in magic and superstitions.

Because Staniel was raised to believe anything he's told regardless of how absurd it seems and even if there is a total lack of evidence to support it, Staniel never developed critical thinking.

Staniel wasn't long for this earth he ended up falling off a cliff while chasing rainbows to find the pot of gold. Staniel thought he could fly because magic was real.

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I'll admit that I know what I know because I first trusted what I learned from my ancestors as a child.
As a result, I have been willing to invest the time needed to examine the evidence and become sufficiently convinced for myself.
You, of course, have no incentive to spend that kind of time if you secretly believe (or desperately hope) there is nothing worth investigating.
But then, that's not really being agnostic, is it?

" if you secretly believe there is nothing worth investigating."

LOL you still don't get it. You keep trying to push beliefs on me. The consistent use of straw man arguments is quite telling. Why are you afraid of debating the topic fairly without trying to constantly force beliefs that you wish I held on me?

Is it because you envy my ability to be comfortable with mystery? Does my lack of beliefs cause you some sort of anxiety over your own?

You ought to read all my posts before jumping to such conclusions.

I have already done my duty to you.

If you would like to have a debate on something, make a post and I'll engage you there. This particular post is not pushing any particular belief and I'd like for it not to go down any rabbit trails that distract from it's intended role of poking fun at agnostics.

Note that the only moral to the story is:

  • Saying you "don't know" does not absolve you of the risks you incur from not knowing.
  • The burden of proof lies with the person taking the risk not the person providing the warning.
  • You have to decide what negative assurances you need to walk out into the Serengeti having been warned that the opposite of what you hope is true.
  • You require 100% proof on the warning side but 0% proof on the assurance side.

This applies to all questions, not just theological questions.

I provided the simple parable for pedagogical purposes.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

LOL I had a post, it inspired this post and you invited me here. Why would I make another post about it?

All you've done is construct a bizarre straw man. The straw man itself is even riddled with logical flaws. The biggest one being that cats exist and are known to exist all over the world.

To say that there are large cats is not an extraordinary claim. We don't have any gods that we know exist and can point to. The credibility of those giving the advice is far superior to anyone gabbing about god. There are reasons to tentatively trust the villages based on evidence.

Your tale actually betrays the weakness of your argument for being so absurd to begin with. It's not a real life scenario. People know lions exist from the outset the premise is absurd. You've had to purposefully craft it to remove normalcy and protect your bias.

It's just getting awkward and cringe worthy.

Let me know if you'd like to drop the straw men.

I shouldn't have to read all your posts to be able to have an honest debate.

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