Anyone Promoting Regime Change In Iran Is An Evil Piece Of Shit

in #qanon6 years ago (edited)

I have been saying all year that the 8chan phenomenon known as "QAnon" is bogus, and as time has gone on the evidence has become overwhelming that it is an establishment psyop designed to herd the populist right into accepting the narratives and agendas of the establishment orthodoxy. Whether they're claiming that every capitulation the Trump administration makes to longstanding neoconservative agendas is actually brilliant 4-D chess strategy, or saying that Julian Assange isn't really trapped in the Ecuadorian embassy, QAnon enthusiasts are constantly regurgitating talking points which just so happen to fit in very conveniently with the interests of America's defense and intelligence agencies.

A recent "Q drop" (a fancy name for an anonymous user posting text onto a popular internet troll message board with zero accountability) makes this more abundantly clear than ever, with text reading as follows:

Free Iran!!!

Fight

Fight

Fight

Regime change.

People have the power.
We stand with you.

Q

Once you're cheering for a longtime neoconservative agenda to be accomplished in one of George W Bush's "Axis of Evil" countries, you are cheering for the establishment. Or, to put it more clearly to Q followers, you are cheering for the deep state.

So now you have conspiracy-minded populist right wingers being manipulated into supporting the same standard Bush administration globalist agendas that Alex Jones built his career on attacking. The support for regime change interventionism in Iran isn't limited to the QAnon crowd, having now gone fully mainstream throughout Trump's base, and I'd like to address a few of the arguments here that they have been bringing to me:

"Iran is nowhere near the same thing as Iraq, Libya or Syria!"


Please go look at a globe and think a little harder about your position here. Iran is a target for regime change for the exact same reasons its neighbors Iraq and Syria have been; it occupies and extremely strategically significant location in an oil-rich region that the US-centralized empire wants full control of. Thinking this one is different because its government isn't secular is the product of many years of Islamophobic propaganda; the plutocrats and their allied intelligence and defense agencies don't care what religion sits on top of their oil, and Saudi Arabia proves it. Any argument made against Iranian theocracy could be made even more strongly against KSA theocracy, but you don't see Sean Hannity advocating the overthrow of the Saudi royals, do you?

"But this regime change intervention would be completely different!"


No it wouldn't. There has never been a US-led regime change intervention in the Middle East that wasn't disastrous. Cheering for regime change interventionism in Iran is cheering for all the destabilization, chaos, terror, death, rape and slavery that always necessarily comes with such interventions. Wanting to inflict that upon the world is monstrous.

"This is different, though! This one is led by Trump! Look at all that he's accomplished in North Korea!"


Okay, three things:

  1. All that Trump has done with North Korea is take the very first step in the most rudimentary beginnings of peace talks. I fully support him in taking that step, but you can't legitimately treat it as an "accomplishment" which proves that he is a strategic genius capable of facilitating the impossible task of non-disastrous regime change in Iran.

  2. Even if Trump does help bring abiding peace to the Korean Peninsula, it won't legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. Hell, even if Trump gets North Korea to denuclearize (and he won't), it still wouldn't legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. US-led regime change interventionism is always disastrous, especially in the easily destabilized geopolitical region of the Middle East.

  3. Neocons are always wrong about foreign policy. Always. There's no reason to believe Trump spearheading a longstanding neocon agenda would work out any better than Bush or any other neocon.

    "Well what about the Iranians in Iran who want regime change?"


    What about them? The fact that some Iranians want their government changed has nothing to do with you or your government. The Fox News and Washington Post pundits who keep pointing out the fact that Iran, like America, contains people who are unhappy with its current system of government are only ever trying to galvanize the west against Tehran. There's no good reason for you to be acting as a pro bono CIA propagandist running around telling westerners how great it would be if the Mullahs were gone.

    "Well I don't want the US to intervene, I just want the Iranians to free themselves!"


    Two things:

  4. This administration is already currently engaged in regime change interventionism in Iran in the form of escalated CIA covert operations and harsh economic sanctions, and its involvement with Iranian terror cult MEK suggests it may run far deeper than that in a similar way to US involvement with extremist groups in Syria, Libya and Ukraine.

  5. Why say anything, then? Ever stop to ask yourself why you're always cheering for Iranians to overthrow their government? Why constantly cheerlead for something which requires zero western involvement? Whom does that help? Do you think Iranians don't already know that America hates their government?

All you're doing is helping to signal boost the pro-regime change propaganda that US defense and intelligence agencies have been seeding into American public consciousness for many years. Your "Yay, free Iran!" sentiments aren't helping Iranians, they're helping the western propagandists target western audiences. You're just helping the public get more okay with any actions taken against the Iranian government, in exactly the same way Russiagaters help manufacture support for escalations against Russia.

Come on, people. Think harder. This one isn't difficult. It's not a random coincidence that you're all being paced into supporting regime change in the final target named seventeen years ago in General Wesley Clark's famous "seven countries in five years" list of neocon regime change agendas. The only thing that has changed is the face on the agenda.

Iran is not different from the other regime change targets of Iraq, Libya or Syria. Barack Obama served George W Bush's third and fourth terms, and Donald Trump is serving his fifth. They were strong-armed in different ways by America's unelected power establishment into advancing different regime change agendas depending on where their political support came from and public sentiment at the time, but it's all been pointed at the exact same region for the exact same reasons.

Leave Iran alone. Leave the Iranian people alone. There is no legitimate reason for you to be cheering for regime change in Iran, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an evil piece of shit. Reject them.


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Fantastic as always, Cait!

It was the Scooby Doo meme that summed it up all so beautifully !

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More great work! Thank you for keeping journalism alive.

that was an upvote before even reading your blog... thanks for your work

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Great article and summary of all arguments. My mind is still not made up here with what is going on with the Q info drops. The correlations with the Q group and trump are many (Jordan sather talks about many of these if people want a summary), u have what he did in North Korea (still pending I understand), not invading Syria apart from missiles strikes that I believe Syria and Russia were in on, u have lots of disagreements with the USA and the UN relates to security council, human rights council and other issues where the UN is being called out for being the bullshit that it is. The whole Q thing is very easy to mislead people, but no one man or group will save us, this comes from all of us waking up and taking stands , could be little things or big things, but a call to action in some form. So for me the whole Q thing has been great because mainsteam media and the average person is now looking into deep state issues and thinking about it. I will see how this plays out, this Q thing can’t go on forever, I think end of 2018 will see big things happen.

Excellent! Some (many) are so mesmerized by Trump they don't see the neocons behind.

Good article.

I disagree with you on a number of points.

Q and Trump might appear as Neocons, but there was also early drops discussing getting to it All, including 911.

They clearly are established in the intelligence system, that can be demonstrated.

This is not like the neocon approach, that neocon approach is why North Korea took about 6 months longer than it did. Kim Jong Un needed guarantees that he would not be getting the ghadafi treatment.

Even where Trump HAS been pushed into a military attack (Syria) it was handled in such a way that there was no innocents lost, destroyed deep state infrastructure AND prevented the bad guys from making a larger war.

If Iran takes place anything like the rest of the actions, it will be something like taking out deep state actors that have been implanted in Iran several times in the past 50 years, which will allow the people to take their freedom with minimal recourse. Think of that scene in V for Vendetta where the people go to revolt only to find that those who would order their deaths was removed moments earlier.

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