RE: Psychology Addict # 26 | Depression – Where to Draw the Line?
thank you for the response. glad I could add the conversation, hopeful you don't mind a bit more...
a problem with psychology is it spends all its time studying people that are messed up.
NLP studied successful people that where messed up but overcame it.. they then modelled the behaviour and teach it to others.
psychology operates under the principle that you are broken, spirituality operates under the principle that you created a problem on top of perfection. so be still, be silent, and reconnect with the divine, problem solved.
OCD, panic disorders
OCD is ego manifested so much control over an individual they feel compelled to do things. meditate, break the ego's hold, problem solved. yes I realize it isn't that simple, but if the one thing they have trouble doing is sitting still... then they need to work on that. if they can't ignore their mind... that is the problem... more drugs or methods will not take the place of doing the work of learning to be quiet inside, learning to you can ignore the mind, learning you are more than your mind.
same for panic disorders.
means psychology delivers to alleviate suffering
if all we do is 'ease the suffering' we haven't addressed the root issue. that is my problem with psychology.. it is just like medical science..
“Is psychology more practical than spirituality? Nothing is more practical than spirituality. What can the poor psychologist do? He can only relieve the pressure. I’m a psychologist myself, and I practice psychotherapy, and I have this great conflict within me when I have to choose sometimes between psychology and spirituality. I wonder if that makes sense to anybody here. It didn’t make sense to me for many years.
“I’ll explain. It didn’t make sense to me for many years until I suddenly discovered that people have to suffer enough in a relationship so that they get disillusioned with all relationships. Isn’t that a terrible thing to think? They’ve got to suffer enough in a relationship before they wake up and say, ‘I’m sick of it! There must be a better way of living than depending on another human being.’ And what was I doing as a psychotherapist? People were coming to me with their relationship problems, with their communication problems, etc., and sometimes what I did was a help. But sometimes, I’m sorry to say, it wasn’t, because it kept people asleep. Maybe they should have suffered a little more. Maybe they ought to touch rock bottom and say, ‘I’m sick of it all.’ It’s only when you’re sick of your sickness that you’ll get out of it. Most people go to a psychiatrist or a psychologist to get relief. I repeat: to get relief. Not to get out of it." - Anthony de Mello
biomedical perspective, this is a reductionist view
ah, the heart of all the problems, the splitting of fields so much they don't know each other and bringing them together we find all sorts of conflicts, which in a single entity wouldn't exist, but in separation thrives.
that is why I mentioned you did a great job from a medical perspective ; )