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RE: Go, go, Losers! World Cup, Personality, and Success

in #psychology6 years ago

Thank you for your meaningful comment, Erica!

It's not an effort of a person himself, it's one of a whole system.

You are definitely a systemic thinker. I am still more a (cognitive) behaviorist. Or a least that is what my systemic mentors and trainers say. I like both approaches, although my mentors say that you cannot combine them. According to them you are either a systemic thinker or not. Well, we will see.

I think the best rulers of the past were those who were not out to go down in history and rule the land and its people well and justly. If they did end up in the books, it was because they were honored, satisfied a conflict, prevented a war and were not afraid of their enemies.

I hope you are right. Although I think that power, politics and the desire to rule attract certain people with certain qualities that are close to the "narcissistic personality" described by Freud. If they are rational enough, they would do good. Otherwise, anyone who is different is expelled by the system - i.g. killed by assassins in the past, or discredited in our time.
I hope I am wrong.

Sometimes I have to be "hard", but loving. Keeping someone out of pity or leaving them in the game is probably a remnant of one's own immaturity.

I hear you. I have experienced it when I was working in a school. I realized back then that being hard, but loving, was one of the best things I could do for those children. It is part of one's maturity for sure - not trying to be likable but to do the right thing.

Isn't a winner someone who is a good loser?

What a great perspective. He/she definitely is!

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Thank you for your careful response.

Yes, that's right, I am a child of systemics. It's an unusual way of seeing things & I got much fascinated about what I learned from the role models of history in this field. Also, I had excellent teachers and more than once they managed to give the class insights with their unusual way of practicing. There are a lot of parallels to Buddhism and their way of education.

I hope you are right. Although I think that power, politics and the desire to rule attract certain people with certain qualities that are close to the "narcissistic personality" described by Freud. If they are rational enough, they would do good. Otherwise, anyone who is different is expelled by the system - i.g. killed by assassins in the past, or discredited in our time.
I hope I am wrong.

I hope that, too. I don't know if the figures from politics tend to have narcissistic character traits. It seems that they are in a majority but then you don't hear from people who are not because they don't seek the camera. Media is really damaging and narrows how people receive news and facts. Media creates what people think of people.

So true. It's really hard to change and not wanting to be everyones darling.

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